[0:04] Did you manage - [0:5]
[0:05] Yeah, quite. [0:7]
[0:07] Okay. [0:8]
[0:08] [humming?] [0:10]
[0:08] You will see uh. [0:9]
[0:09] $ Hello. [0:12]
[0:12] Hello. So, what you - what were j- you guys discussing? [0:15]
[0:16] No, just uh (I was -) if she could manage. [0:19]
[0:16] Uh. [0:17]
[0:18] (Oh.) [0:19]
[0:20] Yeah. [0:20]
[0:20] Okay. Did you find anything new? [0:22]
[0:22] Mm uh nothing special (uh). [0:24]
[0:24] Mm-hmm. [0:25]
[0:25] I have a lot of new information. [0:26]
[0:25] Yeah, the - for uh the trendy uh stuff. [0:29]
[0:27] Great, great. [0:28]
[0:31] A little bit. (I uh now will show it.) [0:33]
[0:31] Come on. [0:32]
[0:34] (??) [0:34]
[0:34] Hey, everything alright. Did you manage? [0:37]
[0:35] Well, I had just a little bit of time, so $ I hope it's something # we can work with, but - [0:44]
[0:39] Okay. [0:40]
[0:39] Okay. [0:40]
[0:41] What's - uh here. Uh. [0:43]
[0:43] Yeah, I had the same. It just uh [0:46]
[0:46] Do you have a lot of new information? Do you have a lot of new information? [0:50]
[0:47] shuts itself down and - [0:49]
[0:48] Hmm? [0:49]
[0:50] Well, I heard that there was a new uh # component - speech recognition component, which was pretty much up to standard, so we might use that - I put that in my drawing, but again I did not have that much time, so. [1:6]
[0:58] Uh. [0:58]
[0:58] # That's true. [0:58]
[0:58] (Oh there we are.) [0:59]
[1:00] # Uh. [1:1]
[1:06] Okay. I have a lot of new information. I have a complete list of uh everything that we can use, all the components that are av- available. I have no - I still don't have any finance information, but at least we have a lot more to go (on) now [1:19]
[1:07] What the f- uh. [1:9]
[1:10] It doesn't do what I want it - [1:11]
[1:14] Okay, that's just super. Let me just - [1:16]
[1:18] Uh. [1:18]
[1:19] (??) [1:20]
[1:20] Okay fine, that's too bad. Yeah, I have to start our - [1:24]
[1:22] You need to start it up first - okay. [1:25]
[1:25] # 'Kay. [1:26]
[1:28] Okay, go again. Our second phase, conceptual design. It's fine, everybody knows what we're talking about, so. Take you past the minutes of last meeting again, (then can you get your three presentat-) to see what you came up with. So too bad we don't have any finance information apparently, so it's too bad. So then we'll just have to d- uh have to go on (you know) the information that we have to make the - make final decisions on uh on the conceptual design, so. [1:54]
[1:35] Yeah. [1:36]
[1:54] (Here) we go. Anyway, last last - we discussed last time, you all remember that, we have to keep the electronics size in mind. So (we got for you) - if we have an easy design with big buttons which are durable and there are people actually spending - willing to spend money to do - to get more features and - uh among those features L_C_D_ screen and voice recognition are very popular. So we have to make a move on that area, I guess. S- especially s- when when the new uh component is applicable in our uh product, we'll be fine. [2:25]
[2:25] Anyways, well (??) was an important - and that's what is - what I took the consumer - yeah, we aim for young consumers, so that's fine. And well actually we - yeah, we did need some more data on finances, but ha- we still don't have that apparently. That's too bad. Yeah, we need to im- de- we are going to implement the beep and the flash thing to recover your remote, so. (We have) these interchangeable covers apparently which will make it a more fashionable product, so. (??) (decisions) anyway. [2:55]
[2:40] # [2:40]
[2:56] Guess we'll have to do this after the after you give your presentations, so I'll just close this one now, and let's uh let's see (centred -) we have lot to tell, you had a lot to go on, so uh how about you go first. [3:8]
[3:03] Okay, (what -) [3:4]
[3:04] I be- [3:4]
[3:07] Yep, that's r- [3:8]
[3:08] Okay, (yeah). [3:9]
[3:09] Uh okay. [3:10]
[3:11] [sigh] [3:12]
[3:14] Let's see where my [3:15]
[3:17] presentation is. [3:18]
[3:21] % [3:22]
[3:24] Okay, um this I mentioned before, every feature for our remote control needs their - to have their own operating electronic devices, we need to take care of # that. Then warning uh there has to be a chip in our remote control, and the chip requirements uh (needed) for a normal button uh is just a simple chip, uh scrollwheel regular and L_C_D_ is an advanced. Of course this is more expensive than this, so we have to decide on that in a minute. The available uh components for energy are, we have a basic battery, a hand an- uh dynamo, like in uh old torches. We have a kin- uh kinetic provision, then you have to shake the remote control to get energy, and we have solar cells. # I suggest that we uh decide on that one l- immediately, then have all this, so. [4:8]
[3:47] # Okay. [3:49]
[4:10] My personal uh fav- favourite is the kinetic provision, because uh I ha- [4:15]
[4:10] Um. [4:11]
[4:14] Does it provide enough energy? [4:15]
[4:16] I think so, yes. [4:17]
[4:17] Also # if if we were - choose the the L_C_D_ option, (would it give enough energy)? Okay, let's uh just assume it takes the same. [4:24]
[4:21] Yes. [4:21]
[4:22] Yes. Because I had the information uh you take uh the remote control, you pick it up at least two times a day. So then it's already shaken and gives energy. [4:30]
[4:29] # Well, I'm not sure if it's shaking enough, because - [4:32]
[4:31] Is that enough? Because I don't really see people shaking their remote control before using it. [4:35]
[4:34] No, I don't think so, because # watches can go on kinetic energy because they move all the time, but (I'm not sure -) I mean remotes lie still I think like ninety nine percent of the time, so I don't think that's a (really good -) the other alternative were solar cells, and I think that's apllicable because [4:49]
[4:34] $ [4:36]
[4:40] Hmm. [4:40]
[4:42] Hmm. [4:43]
[4:49] Other options are solar cells, hand dynamo and basic battery. [4:52]
[4:49] Yeah. [4:50]
[4:52] I thi- # why why shouldn't we take a basic battery? [4:54]
[4:52] And what does the hand dynamo - oh, sorry. [4:54]
[4:54] Yeah. A rechargeable maybe. [4:56]
[4:56] Only basic battery? Okay, but I think this is not a r- [4:58]
[4:57] Why not? I mean everybody everybody knows how to use that, it's it's common, # so - and it's available everywhere, so (what's - mm I think that's better). [5:4]
[4:57] Re- rechargeable basi- [4:59]
[4:59] Uh. [4:59]
[5:01] # Yeah. [5:2]
[5:03] Yeah, but I think this rules out our unit - our rechargeable unit. This is really - a really basic battery, a normal battery. [5:9]
[5:03] Yeah. [5:4]
[5:07] Yeah, but it's - [5:8]
[5:09] # Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't in the options, a rechargeable m- module actually. [5:13]
[5:12] Okay, that's uh (??). Okay? [5:15]
[5:14] Okay yeah, w- # you c- of course you could place re- rechargeable batteries, but that's up to the consumer itself, so. [5:19]
[5:15] Yeah, basic. [5:16]
[5:19] Okay, but then we don't offer a rechargement function, that's what it (says). [5:22]
[5:22] Well, # it's not in the list, so we cannot choose from it. $ [5:25]
[5:25] Exactly. Okay, right. (Yeah.) Next one is curving. Uh we can make a model that has one curve, two or three. [5:33]
[5:26] Okay, we just take (a look at) the batteries. [5:27]
[5:28] Okay. [5:28]
[5:34] And uh - (uh th-) the shape. Of course uh the more curves the more expensive, exactly. Yes. [5:41]
[5:34] Curves being - $ [5:36]
[5:38] Okay. [5:39]
[5:38] Of the remote control itself, okay. I was thinking along the line of one curve. I'll show that in my design, [5:46]
[5:42] It dep- [5:42]
[5:45] But - [5:45]
[5:45] Hmm. [5:46]
[5:46] Okay, we'll get back on that later. Just - [5:48]
[5:47] so we'll get back to that. [5:48]
[5:48] Yeah. [5:48]
[5:49] Hmm. # I think one curve is uh fine. [5:51]
[5:49] Yeah. [5:50]
[5:50] But what were the implications if y- if you put more curves it it's - gets more expensive. Okay, # so I think with with the (extras that) we had there it's two curves I suppose. Okay. [5:59]
[5:51] Depends on the user. [5:52]
[5:53] More expensive. More (??). [5:55]
[5:58] Exactly. And I believe even that the the number of options we have on putting things in it uh goes down with - exactly. # Material. I have to offer a plastic, rubber, wood or titanium. Uh if we choose plastic, we cannot choose solar cells for energy. If choose titanium, uh we cannot use more than one curve, [6:20]
[6:05] Also decreases, okay. [6:6]
[6:16] Okay. [6:17]
[6:21] but we don't have that so far. [6:22]
[6:21] More than one curve, uh yeah okay. We'll just go uh - [6:25]
[6:22] # Oh yeah, it's - I'd go for plastic, because I have a couple of curves in my design. Well, g- # let's just get back to tha- [6:31]
[6:26] Because it - yeah, I'm not sure. [6:27]
[6:29] Yeah. [6:29]
[6:30] We'll discuss that later. Okay, we have - so I think we can rule out # um - I'm not sure we can rule anything out. We'll do that when y- # when you get your design. [6:37]
[6:31] Yeah. [6:32]
[6:31] Okay. [6:32]
[6:37] But I think wood is not an option either. [6:39]
[6:39] No, wood's not an option, no. [6:40]
[6:39] No, wood i- wood's not an option. (Well it) it's stylish, but we can - yeah, w- # you can change your covers anyway. [6:44]
[6:40] Okay. [6:40]
[6:42] Hmm. [6:42]
[6:43] Yeah. [6:43]
[6:44] Okay. My personal thought was uh rubber, because I had an email, I believe it was from you, uh f- against falling. [6:51]
[6:49] Yeah, s- it - keep in mind that it it's it's # it fa- uh remote controls fall a lot on the ground, so you don't want it to break. So either have rubber edges or # - a rubber remote control is very durable, but - [7:0]
[6:52] (Yeah.) [6:53]
[6:56] Hmm. [6:56]
[6:58] Okay. # Uh - [7:0]
[7:00] Yeah, but it doesn't have to be unbreakable, because we do need to keep selling these things. $ [7:4]
[7:00] Yeah. [7:0]
[7:02] (Doesn't) have to be unbreakable, it's p- it's it's not supposed to # ju- yeah, break after one use. I mean it's (they they follow up), so. [7:10]
[7:07] Okay, well tha- that's definitely true. [7:10]
[7:10] Hmm. I think we have to decide on this anyway. Uh because if we make removeable covers, it has to be one of those mat- materials. We have no more than this, so. [7:18]
[7:18] Because well, ru- will rubber actually protect the remote control itself? Because it - [7:23]
[7:18] (??) [7:19]
[7:22] Well, you have for - if you - if for example if you take hard plastic. If it falls it might crack. And rubber kind of softens the fall. [7:29]
[7:28] Yeah, but then you buy a new cover. But rubber - [7:31]
[7:30] I'm not sure if it's the it's the entire cover you change uh. It's - could be - [7:34]
[7:33] Uh are we focussi*- focussing on on the - [7:36]
[7:36] (??) our focus is very much on the covers now, I think it's just now we're going for the basic design. If we wanna expand our options, f- be fashionable, then we can get changeable covers, but I think the basic thing - let's just rule out wood for now and continue. [7:49]
[7:37] But - [7:38]
[7:45] But - (I -) [7:46]
[7:45] Hmm. [7:46]
[7:48] # Okay. [7:48]
[7:48] (Nah), but are we focussing on the uh younger people or the elder people? Younger, okay. Yeah, that's (??). Then it's - [7:57]
[7:53] We're definitely focussing on the younger people, 'cause that was our main goal. [7:56]
[7:58] # (Hey.) Then I proceed, but I need to know after this meeting, so. Interface, uh I have four things to offer, pu- uh normal pushbuttons of course. Um # uh we have a lot of expertise on that one, we have large history, our company, on pushbuttons. Scrollwheels, uh those can be pushed as well, although that is more expensive. Um liquid crystal colour display and # uh - [8:21]
[8:01] Okay okay, we will. [8:3]
[8:12] Mm-hmm. [8:12]
[8:22] What is this? Okay, and if we use rubber - I will (amend) that, we can only use rubber buttons, so rubber can only match with rubber. Which one of those are we gonna use? Pushbuttons, that's # uh I think basic. [8:33]
[8:29] Mm-hmm. [8:29]
[8:33] Uh we don't - yeah, o- of course we're gonna use p- I didn't I didn't go on the thought of a scroll wheel actually. I'm still deciding on what what what could you use it for. Maybe for volume control. Channel I think that would be annoying, because it might accidentally (scroll) onto another channel. I think a pushbutton for channel would be better. I mean it - for volume control it's it's a smoother motion, you can just increase or decrease, but not sure for channels will be good. [8:54]
[8:34] Yeah, of course. [8:35]
[8:35] Uh. [8:35]
[8:35] But - [8:35]
[8:38] Yeah. [8:39]
[8:40] I think the channels. [8:42]
[8:51] Yeah. [8:51]
[8:53] Hmm. (??) [8:54]
[8:53] Yeah, but there is - is it really necessary, 'cause a normal pushbutton can do that job. [8:58]
[8:55] I don't think so, I haven't I haven't taken it into consideration. [8:57]
[8:57] Uh. # Uh so but looks cool. # Yeah. [9:0]
[8:58] But th- the younger people - my investigation turns out that the younger people want a little bit uh material that that is uh spongy and uh - [9:7]
[8:58] I don't think we really need one. [9:0]
[9:04] Uh flashy and - yeah. [9:6]
[9:07] (After -) [9:8]
[9:08] I think would be cool, scroll wheel. # It's not that much - if we take a normal scroll wheel without the pushing, then it's not expensive. We can do that. [9:14]
[9:08] So - [9:8]
[9:11] Uh sc- [9:11]
[9:14] But why do we need it? [9:15]
[9:15] Yeah, but why would we use it? [9:16]
[9:16] Uh we don't need it, but it # uh it's design - a design thing. [9:19]
[9:16] Yeah. [9:17]
[9:17] If we don't need it, why put it in your why put it in your in your - if it's if it's not something people are looking for or is useful. [9:23]
[9:18] $ Yeah, you ca- [9:19]
[9:23] Mm uh. [9:24]
[9:23] I think they are looking for that. Because we have uh a young target group, so they might find that attractive in a remote con- [9:29]
[9:25] Are they? [9:25]
[9:28] Scrollwheel? I dunno. [9:29]
[9:28] # Yeah, but if it's if it's not useful, I don't think it I don't think it gives an extra function to the remote anyway. [9:33]
[9:33] # Okay. So pushbuttons we will use. Uh L_C_D_ screen? [9:37]
[9:37] Perhaps # I have t- I have two different - [9:40]
[9:38] Is that - [9:39]
[9:38] What you wha- what'd you get on the L_C_D_ screen? Is it expensive, does it - [9:41]
[9:39] Yeah. [9:40]
[9:42] Uh I only know that if we are using that, we need ano- uh an advanced chip in it. And that is (??). [9:48]
[9:48] And how much more expensive is that? Or - [9:50]
[9:50] I have no idea, I have no absolute numbers. I only have - [9:52]
[9:52] No absolute numbers, but it's just more expensive and takes more room I suppose in your in your design. [9:57]
[9:52] Uh. [9:53]
[9:56] Yeah, but I don't think the room is really an issue. [9:59]
[9:59] Don't think it's an issue, okay. Uh let's go for - let's say because it is # very hot in n- our target group I think, we should take it take it into consideration to build an L_C_D_ screen in it. [10:9]
[10:01] % [10:2]
[10:09] (Okay.) [10:9]
[10:09] I have two designs, one including uh # an L_C_D_ screen, # which is basically the deluxe edition, and then I also have a standard edition, which wi- we can also choose to develop two. [10:21]
[10:12] For the future. [10:13]
[10:13] Okay. [10:14]
[10:15] Yeah. [10:15]
[10:20] Which basically has the same functionality, but lacks the L_C_D_ screen. Okay. We'll pick a - we'll pick from (them). Just combine everything later. [10:28]
[10:22] Yeah. [10:22]
[10:23] Exactly. [10:24]
[10:25] But we'll - [10:26]
[10:28] Hmm, okay. Electronics, uh the first one is the chip. Uh that's no longer an option, it has to be an advanced one now, 'cause we have the L_C_D_ screen. Then we have an infrared sender, I think that's basic, we cannot do without, otherwise it's not a remote control. And we have the sample sensor and speaker, the voice recognition (and thing). Are we gonna do that or not? [10:47]
[10:39] Basically, it - [10:40]
[10:41] Mm-hmm. [10:41]
[10:47] Once again I was - would ask you if it's expensive, but apparently you don't have any data, so. [10:51]
[10:47] Oh, I got - [10:48]
[10:50] I only have uh uh relative information. [10:54]
[10:53] # Bu- what what was exact- what you got on the on the new component? [10:57]
[10:56] I got an email that it's relatively small. [10:58]
[10:58] That's small, so we can implement it. So why why - if it's small and we can imp- why shouldn't we? [11:3]
[11:00] Yes, let me just - [11:1]
[11:03] Yeah, back. [11:4]
[11:04] (??) [11:4]
[11:04] And there's # - could you get your mar- marketing report? What was uh the last number of how many people were interested in voice recognition? [11:10]
[11:05] That goes also for the scrollwheel, by the way. [11:7]
[11:11] Um uh [11:12]
[11:12] Although it's hard for different countries of course. [11:14]
[11:14] the most of them um [11:16]
[11:15] But you have to programme it yourself, I suppose, with your own voice. [11:19]
[11:19] uh more than the sixty percent. [11:23]
[11:23] More than sixty percent of the people would like voice recognition. [11:26]
[11:25] Yeah. Mean of a seventy percent I think, uh I'm - I have to look it up. [11:29]
[11:28] Hmm. [11:28]
[11:29] If it's small, if it's fits, and if people like it, why not? So. [11:33]
[11:32] Hmm. But don't we have any w- uh information about the scrollwheel scrollwheel, if people would like that? That's strange, because that's the same story. It's it's not necessary like an L_C_D_, but it's just - it adds something to the design. [11:45]
[11:36] No. [11:36]
[11:37] No, only - [11:39]
[11:40] Uh I dunno. [11:41]
[11:43] # Yeah, but we got some data on people that actually are int - are interested in that, and I don't think a scrollwheel # offers new functionality, whereas speech recognition and L_C_D_ screen do offer new functionality in your product. [11:55]
[11:48] Hmm. [11:48]
[11:48] # [11:48]
[11:50] On the most spee- [11:51]
[11:51] # No. [11:51]
[11:53] Bu- [11:53]
[11:54] Uh yeah, that's r- [11:55]
[11:56] (??) [11:57]
[11:56] But uh I think we now already have to uh implement uh an advanced chip, so it's - [12:2]
[12:01] # Uh I think so, because if - I think we're specially w- if you're going - maybe uh if you have the two editions you wanna you wanna give out, probably you have one with # with speech recognition and - [12:11]
[12:02] Yeah, for the future. [12:4]
[12:11] Well, they b- they basically can have speech recognition. I've mainly focused on the L_C_D_ uh aspect. [12:18]
[12:15] Um - [12:16]
[12:18] Yeah, hold on a minute. Were were you were you finished # or - [12:20]
[12:20] No, but that's that's okay. [12:21]
[12:22] Uh. [12:22]
[12:23] Because if there's something (that) - [12:24]
[12:23] (??) [12:24]
[12:24] 'Cause you wanted to see them, right? [12:26]
[12:25] There is still time. [12:26]
[12:25] ('Cause have -) did you have all the materials? (??) - [12:28]
[12:27] Yes, that was uh the last (M_S_. I have a clip actually.) [12:30]
[12:29] Okay, so just just go for design for now, just # have a seat for a second uh. [12:33]
[12:36] We'll combine everything # after this. [12:38]
[12:37] So this is basically the deluxe edition. [12:39]
[12:41] Why is it s- why is it squared? [12:42]
[12:41] I j- [12:41]
[12:43] Why is it square? [12:44]
[12:43] Why did you pick square? # Or uh not square, but why is it (acquain-) yeah, sharp corners. [12:48]
[12:44] I- 'cause it's designy*. [12:46]
[12:47] It's basically # - has some futuristic [12:50]
[12:53] (Potentially, yeah.) I don't really know, but I just thought that # uh in normal remote controls you have like smooth curves and this and that, and this is something new, this is something different, something fresh. [13:4]
[12:53] Yeah. [12:53]
[12:55] People - [12:55]
[12:56] Looks like a Star Trek phaser. $ [12:58]
[13:05] # It's true. [13:6]
[13:07] Basically what you can see here is that it has a little, yeah, let's say gap which you can put your finger in. [13:14]
[13:08] Ri- [13:8]
[13:13] Yeah. Okay, so just - yeah, you can rest it on your finger. Okay. [13:17]
[13:15] So only r- right-handed. [13:17]
[13:15] So you can you can hold it really comfortable, that's basically the idea. [13:19]
[13:18] Mm-hmm. [13:18]
[13:18] But i- but it's only right-handed then. Not for the left - or - [13:22]
[13:21] Or left hand. I doesn't really matter. [13:23]
[13:21] No, it's just uh # - it's a curve inside the thing, so. [13:24]
[13:24] Hmm. [13:24]
[13:24] As you can see, this is the remote control [13:27]
[13:24] Where? [13:25]
[13:26] It's on the back. [13:26]
[13:27] Oh in the back, okay. Oh yeah yeah. [13:30]
[13:28] Uh you can't really see it that well, but this is the L_C_D_ screen. So just imagine it goes that way. Then you can see you can hold it in your left or in your right hand. And I also made a quick image, 'cause I did not have that much time, [13:44]
[13:31] Okay. [13:32]
[13:34] Yeah, I think it's okay. [13:35]
[13:34] Oh yeah yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah yeah. [13:37]
[13:39] Yeah. (??) [13:41]
[13:46] of the standard edition [13:48]
[13:49] which has basically - the keys are pretty much the same. [13:52]
[13:54] The keys are probably the n- the number keys, I suppose. [13:56]
[13:56] Yeah. I had to do this really fast, so excuse me for the uh inconvenience here, but as you can see, the keys moved. [14:4]
[14:02] Okay. [14:3]
[14:04] Well, you can work on the actual concept # or actual design later with him, but - [14:8]
[14:06] Yeah. [14:6]
[14:08] So these are basically the two types we have, so if we were to select the L_C_D_ screen, the transmitter here, you can see the light i- [14:16]
[14:16] Well, I think what you have to keep in mind is that um you're moving the the the number keys from the top, Uh # in the the simple design you have them at the top, and the (complexes, you have them) at the bottom, so it would - that would give us a totally different design, so (we're j-) actually making a whole different product instead of two different models. I think it would be very expensive to produce two whole different products, so. [14:41]
[14:40] Well we can shift that, but normally, as you can see there, we put the uh number buttons right on top. [14:47]
[14:48] # (Whereas) because we had the L_C_D_ screen here, we had to move them downward, so what you could say is that - [14:54]
[14:52] (??) for example, why did you pick the mm the numbers # uh all the way below, and the and the channels and volume control - [15:0]
[14:59] Because these are basically the functions you use the most, so if you hold it in your hand like this, you put your finger in the gap, this is the m- most easy part. [15:9]
[15:00] Uh it's - yeah. [15:2]
[15:09] Okay. [15:10]
[15:10] Hmm, I agree. [15:11]
[15:10] For zapping, co- because people are zapping most of the time. [15:14]
[15:10] That's fine. That's fine. [15:11]
[15:11] Yeah. [15:11]
[15:12] Just as long as you tak- took it into consideration what people would prefer uh. Okay, if you all agree, I'm fine with it, but - [15:19]
[15:17] Hmm. [15:18]
[15:20] Yeah. [15:21]
[15:22] Okay. So that's pretty much ha- which I had in mind. As you can see here, this can be spaced for extra keys, which is the design thingie. [15:32]
[15:30] Okay. [15:31]
[15:33] # [15:33]
[15:33] Nah, maybe it's better to look uh what the people want, so I can uh show my uh investigation. [15:40]
[15:36] Yeah, I think we'll - [15:37]
[15:40] I think we're going towards the deluxe edition anyway, because that seems to be what the people want, but let's see what's what they want now. [15:46]
[15:43] Yeah, maybe it's better. [15:45]
[15:45] Yeah. [15:46]
[15:45] Especially for young people. [15:47]
[15:47] Mm-hmm. [15:47]
[15:48] Uh where is that (??)? Where is - [15:51]
[15:52] That's mine. [15:53]
[15:57] Oh. Uh - [15:58]
[15:58] No, you should send it to the f- to the folder first. [16:0]
[16:00] Yeah. [16:1]
[16:04] Mm I forgot that. [16:6]
[16:04] Okay um, let's just assume we gone a forty minutes one. [16:11]
[16:12] Okay, now it must be there. [16:14]
[16:17] Yeah, here it is. [16:18]
[16:21] (Oh yeah.) [16:22]
[16:31] Okay, # the investigation turns out that most appear - uh people want uh um uh look and feel likes is uh uh the s- the same as before, but it must be w- a little bit fancier than uh the the look of it. Um the second important thing is um the - it must be uh technol- technological uh innova- vative*-, so that's the L_C_D_ screen* is perfect I think, and not uh - [17:1]
[16:49] (%) [16:50]
[17:02] Speech recognition. [17:3]
[17:03] Yeah, tha- that's uh very important. [17:5]
[17:06] And a third thing is [17:8]
[17:09] # um - yeah, it's uh should be easy to use, so not not too much bu- buttons and uh channel selection, I think that's uh - what you showed is uh perfect. [17:19]
[17:21] And what the pe- young people want # is uh - in Paris and and Milan uh it showed out that the fruit and vegetables are uh are trendy. They - you s- you see it in the clothes and everything. And um the contrast # uh of it, it must - the the buttons must a little bit spongy material, so uh rubber, I think uh th- that's the best. [17:45]
[17:32] Mm-hmm. [17:33]
[17:42] Hmm. [17:43]
[17:44] Yeah. Yeah, uh I agree. [17:46]
[17:45] Mm-hmm. [17:45]
[17:45] Then rubber would be the best as a material indeed, if that is the uh - [17:49]
[17:47] Nah. So we are - we were focussing uh on the younger people, so the elder*, yeah, they wanted a little bit of wood in it and uh that's # th- that's not uh important now. [17:59]
[17:47] I think so. [17:48]
[17:50] Okay, agreement. [17:51]
[17:59] Okay, so we're definitely going for rubber. [18:0]
[17:59] It could be a c- it could be a cover, but # it's not. Our focus is the young audience, so let's stick to that. [18:6]
[18:01] Yeah. [18:1]
[18:03] Yeah, but - [18:4]
[18:03] I just go- [18:4]
[18:05] Yeah. [18:6]
[18:06] Uh-huh. [18:7]
[18:07] 'Cause uh I I thought uh it makes a young uh classic remote with uh - [18:13]
[18:13] (Nah), I think we # - in this case you're losing the the focus on the young group, because we're - that's what we're focussing on, so I think the spongy feel gives us rubber. [18:22]
[18:16] Yeah, that's why I I d- uh [18:18]
[18:19] (??) # - [18:20]
[18:22] Mm-hmm. [18:22]
[18:22] With the fruit uh [18:23]
[18:23] (Yeah, that's apparently -) [18:25]
[18:24] cover or or something like that uh. [18:26]
[18:26] Yeah, apparently - yeah, maybe also - yeah, I tend to disagree with with uh with the sharp form. I suppose it basi- if you're uh saying fruits and vegetables, maybe it's supposed to be (??) little more round. [18:38]
[18:34] (??) [18:34]
[18:36] Yeah, in in form of an uh vegetable or an uh fruit maybe. [18:41]
[18:40] Yeah, for exa- maybe like uh like a pear or something. [18:42]
[18:41] Yeah, but that's just more a se- a seasonal, a trend thing. The idea now is is is that you can uh put a cover on it, for example, with fruit like - a shape or whatever, but not # - next year it will it'll be something completely different, and then you have your apple-shaped remote control, which is not trendy anymore, so I think that's more something you can focus - [19:8]
[18:42] Mm. [18:42]
[18:43] Oh, where is your - [18:44]
[18:46] That's true. [18:46]
[18:46] That's what we're doing. [18:47]
[18:47] A trendy - [18:48]
[18:54] Hmm. [18:54]
[18:55] I think shape is is important, because they s- they really extend - [18:59]
[18:55] Hmm. [18:56]
[18:56] Here he- here you can put a - [18:59]
[19:05] Yeah, but now you have your your - like your Star Trek phaser thing shaped control, so # I th- the edges are really really sharp. # I'm uh not su- [19:14]
[19:11] Well, you can s- [19:12]
[19:11] Maybe - [19:12]
[19:13] What you can do is smooth the edges indeed, but that will bring extra c- expenses. [19:17]
[19:17] Hmm. [19:17]
[19:17] Or maybe just make i- make it # uh into into a low - a smooth curve instead of just less sharp twist on the outside. [19:24]
[19:22] Yeah. [19:22]
[19:23] Or uh veg- fruit and vegetables are round, so it's better - [19:26]
[19:27] I think I think there needs to be a little - I think it's too too sharp, the edges are too sharp. The bottom is fine of course if it's square uh, you just # make uh the top a little - round it off on the sides, so. I mean - [19:39]
[19:32] Yeah. [19:32]
[19:38] I think, according to my information, this would be two curves. [19:42]
[19:43] That would be two curves. [19:45]
[19:43] Two? [19:44]
[19:44] We have one left and one right, and that disables - what was it again? [19:48]
[19:49] But it - [19:50]
[19:49] It's some- it's something that we cannot do then. [19:52]
[19:52] One cur- you could also make the curve go through of course, but that would make make the top round. [19:57]
[19:55] But we've got we've got like one curve here. [19:58]
[19:58] Okay, that's not a problem, that's only for the titanium. (We don't have it.) [20:2]
[19:59] For the gap. [20:0]
[20:01] But it's that that's for the comfort. It's it's not for the trendy thing of it. [20:7]
[20:02] And we could have one here. [20:4]
[20:07] No, no no no no, but I'm just - 'cause you mentioned that more curves the more expensive, so I'm just taking that into account. [20:14]
[20:13] Yeah? Okay, yeah. [20:14]
[20:13] # Yes. [20:14]
[20:15] But let's see, titanium would give us only one curve, so we're we're not u- we're not using titanium. [20:20]
[20:15] Uh - [20:16]
[20:17] Then we - yeah, but we don't have that, so we have [20:19]
[20:19] So the - no. [20:21]
[20:21] we have no (??). [20:22]
[20:21] But we picked rubber, right? [20:22]
[20:22] # Right, we did, so. [20:24]
[20:24] But they uh - [20:25]
[20:25] So basically what we can do is # make these edges a little bit less sharp, but the problem then is that it will start to resemble m- the remote controls as we have them today. We were looking at something fresh, something trendy - [20:40]
[20:27] Just doodle something on the board on the left. [20:29]
[20:40] Well actually, we're setting ourselves apart from # by technology alone actually. [20:45]
[20:42] # [20:42]
[20:46] So that - let's see what you're doing. [20:48]
[20:49] They th- these are what they call the curves. This side, this side, this is how they count. [20:54]
[20:52] Oh, okay. I don't think like that. Not not really the curves on on the side of the remote. [20:57]
[20:53] Okay. [20:54]
[20:56] No no, this is what they uh what they mean. Okay, that's not really good to - [21:1]
[20:59] Okay, so that's basically (silly). [21:1]
[21:00] Okay, now I uh - of course now I understand why they have more uh like um - [21:6]
[21:07] Why the curves [21:8]
[21:09] # um decrease the the um # the size - the electronics that can be inside, so. Okay. [21:16]
[21:17] I don't think the outside would be (called as) a curve really. [21:20]
[21:21] Yeah. [21:22]
[21:22] It's like this. [21:23]
[21:23] I think it's for all the basic - well, looking from the side anyway. Well, just you have to come up with some designs fast anyway, so. [21:32]
[21:32] But you can make uh - if you want to use a fruit in uh in uh - [21:36]
[21:37] Okay. (%) [21:39]
[21:38] But isn't the f- the fruit like a cover thing, because we - [21:42]
[21:38] Uh. [21:39]
[21:42] Well, you shouldn't focus on the - mostly on the covers, because a lot of things we came up with, # (they) shouldn't be too - really too much - shouldn't be too focussed on the covers, because it's kind of an idea of our own, but we're not sure if we can actually make that. [21:53]
[21:43] (Hi you -) [21:44]
[21:47] You can make it like [21:48]
[21:49] Hmm. [21:49]
[21:49] No, but [21:50]
[21:49] like this. [21:50]
[21:51] but if we put that directly into the design, we limit ourselves extremely. Because that's just for one seasonal trend. [22:0]
[21:58] # That's one thing I'm also afraid of with this one, because # the edges are really um - they might stick out on the on the side for example. If you have a basic design, a little m- a little smaller and uh on the s- on the edges, # you could put more covers on it, # one one with squares or um sharp corners if you want to, so. M- just round it off a little, I guess, because - so we have more options I suppose. [22:22]
[21:59] Well - [22:0]
[22:02] Oh. [22:2]
[22:04] Uh it's a example, but [22:6]
[22:08] I d- [22:8]
[22:16] Okay, so that - well, that's probabl- [22:18]
[22:20] Hmm. [22:20]
[22:21] Yes, you just like it to go a little bit more like this. [22:24]
[22:24] I think so, because it looks leaner and - we should just go with that. Anyway, you have all the time in the world to make to make the (??) design in a minute with him, so. So we decided on what what did you guys wanna know again, because this is um - anyway, I'll fire up my thing, so. ('Cause we can't) do a decision. [22:43]
[22:26] Okay. [22:27]
[22:41] Did you present everything you wanted to? [22:45]
[22:45] Yep. So I can uh qui- uh I can quickly make a conclusion [22:50]
[22:46] Okay. [22:46]
[22:48] # Uh what the - [22:50]
[22:51] of what we have decided so far. [22:53]
[22:54] Uh we still need to decide on a couple of things you you needed to know. [22:58]
[22:57] Uh. [22:57]
[23:03] Yeah. [23:4]
[23:07] Okay, anyway. Uh energy, we choose regular regular batteries. The chip is advanced because we have the advanced features. The case, it will be - the material will be rubber, suppose (??) the design we talked about. Uh user interface, type. [23:24]
[23:12] Yeah. [23:12]
[23:27] Uh I think we took all the components separately what we want. Um let's see um supplements. I'm not sure what they mean by that anyway. Um apparently you guys, you should work together on the final design, both on internal external design, so. [23:47]
[23:49] Yeah, you should you should probably find out how the product will fall into the market, how uh - what's gonna happen with the final design as we have it now, so. # Yeah, of course you got your specific instructions as usual, so. # (??) I think we're in a- $ pretty much in agreement actually, which is good, so. [24:10]
[23:53] Yeah. [23:53]
[23:57] Yeah uh uh. [23:58]
[24:02] Hmm. [24:2]
[24:08] Hmm. [24:8]
[24:09] Are we all in agreement about the, well, the primary structure of the - of my design? Except for the edges, like the keys (there). [24:19]
[24:16] Lef- let's see, where did the pen go? Here. [24:18]
[24:19] # Uh open your thing again. (Let's see uh) if you can come up with anything new. Um (I'll just) do the next one. [24:25]
[24:27] So, what would give us your ne- your design would be - the lights would be on top, right? Uh one on each one on each side. [24:34]
[24:32] Yeah. [24:33]
[24:35] To create a kind of disco effect when you - [24:37]
[24:38] That was basically what - [24:40]
[24:39] Is it is it the lights for for # finding the finding the remote or the lights that that - [24:44]
[24:44] Light for the finding of the remote. We can also use one light for [24:48]
[24:49] showing that the signal is being sent, but - [24:51]
[24:51] Yeah, I think that should just be a simple light or something, like # that that's not that important of course, it's just (not like matter) of a # a beep if you pre- that you just know that that there's context, so I don't think that's super important, but - [25:3]
[25:05] Hmm. # [25:6]
[25:08] So we have - the teletext we have here, we have the mute [25:11]
[25:12] Uh s- # uh. [25:14]
[25:12] L_C_D_ screen. This is the on off button. [25:15]
[25:17] And speech w- recognition, we [25:19]
[25:18] Speech recognition, I - what did I imagine? I did that pretty much over here, so that you could use it like this [25:26]
[25:20] we - [25:20]
[25:23] Little voice uh [25:25]
[25:26] recorder and a uh - [25:28]
[25:27] and speak to it. Then you have the uh extra keys for teletext, mute, two buttons which can be pretty much anything or nothing. We can also just not use them. [25:39]
[25:40] Let's see, I'll just make [25:41]
[25:40] # Main controls and a keypad. [25:42]
[25:43] Yeah. [25:43]
[25:44] one light here. [25:45]
[25:47] I'm just making it red now, but it could be any colour, so. [25:49]
[25:49] We (fight). [25:50]
[25:50] Okay, whatever. Fine, anyway. What do we have here? (I make it -) um are we gonna use square buttons or round ones actually? [26:0]
[26:02] Personally I would prefer round ones. [26:4]
[26:04] Me too. [26:5]
[26:05] Yeah, but tha- this was just in the design, because if you - I had a square design, so I had square buttons, but in that case the round buttons would be more appropriate. [26:13]
[26:05] (Formal) fruit is better. [26:7]
[26:07] # [26:8]
[26:07] Yeah, for - [26:8]
[26:10] Okay. [26:10]
[26:13] Okay, I (assume it's for -) so we take a r- take a round power button right here. [26:16]
[26:19] [whistling] Whatever. Uh back to black. [26:22]
[26:25] Uh not too big though. [26:26]
[26:29] (??) would be good. [26:30]
[26:35] Um let's see. [26:37]
[26:39] Are these for (any) extra controls? [26:40]
[26:41] Yeah, the left one is teletext and the right one is mute, and these two buttons are or not necessary or - [26:50]
[26:42] Okay. [26:42]
[26:48] Okay. % If we go for for round buttons in general, do we want to - the menu key in the middle to be round? For example, if you - let's see, put it - this here. I think we'll go with the triangles (though). Come on. [27:2]
[27:04] Yeah, the triagrammes would be best indeed. [27:6]
[27:06] Triangles are good. [27:7]
[27:09] Yeah, they're a little too big now, but # - [27:11]
[27:15] Anyway, okay. So do you want for example # uh [27:19]
[27:21] a round button in the middle or a square one? [27:23]
[27:25] I personally think that a round # button looks a bit silly, but - [27:30]
[27:28] Hmm. [27:28]
[27:30] I'm not sure uh, I just just came up with it. [27:32]
[27:30] Yeah. [27:31]
[27:33] This aligns nicely, so. [27:35]
[27:37] Okay. We'll just take the take the round button I suppose. Uh uh the square button, sorry. [27:44]
[27:45] Does everybody agree on that? [27:46]
[27:46] Yeah. [27:47]
[27:47] I suppose so. [27:48]
[27:47] I would prefer round, but doesn't matter, doesn't matter. [27:50]
[27:48] You prefer a round? Okay. [27:51]
[27:52] Okay. [27:53]
[27:52] That's not a big deal I think. [27:54]
[27:54] ($) [27:55]
[28:03] So there's our numbers. I think we need an extra button here of course for - yeah, like you had for the [28:8]
[28:10] higher numbers. [28:11]
[28:14] And you could include a button here for the mute, I suppose, [28:17]
[28:18] for something else, just to [28:20]
[28:22] Yeah, you can, but it but it's not necessary, because - [28:25]
[28:22] mirror mirror the effect (of this). That's not necessary because # it - you can take this away, but there - it looks like there's a hole there, just to mirror the effect. Okay, so we have a few - [28:33]
[28:32] We could put our logo there. $ [28:34]
[28:34] Nah, I think it it would be nice to put the logo here, for example, if you have some buttons here. [28:38]
[28:41] We could put a logo here, because it's very - always in your field of vision. If you're watching it, the L_C_D_ screen, blah blah. [28:48]
[28:44] And what about - yeah. [28:46]
[28:48] What about a button for your uh favourite channel? [28:51]
[28:52] Oh that could be that - [28:53]
[28:52] W- could we could include either here [28:54]
[28:54] Uh yeah, with the extra controls uh. [28:56]
[28:56] or here, for example. (What do you think), here or here? [28:59]
[28:58] Well now it's getting a little bit too crowded up there, so. $ [29:2]
[28:58] One one set - [28:59]
[29:00] I know. [29:1]
[29:01] Yeah, you have to put it up uh - [29:3]
[29:04] So it can basically be the button down below or one of the four buttons up there, because - [29:8]
[29:07] No, we could put this one as favourite channel for example. [29:9]
[29:08] One of the four uh, it's (better than -) I think. [29:11]
[29:11] What are these for? Okay. [29:12]
[29:11] One of the four is better, I suppose. [29:15]
[29:13] It's a favourite channel. [29:14]
[29:15] What? [29:16]
[29:16] What? ^Nee^, one of the four uh - [29:18]
[29:19] Because it's a little bit confusing to have twelve buttons down there, because you're only accustomed to eleven, I'd say. [29:27]
[29:19] It's better - [29:20]
[29:28] Accustomed to eleven? [29:29]
[29:29] $ [29:29]
[29:30] My uh - okay, have your way. I mean (I think) this looks for other - like like there's something missing for example. I mean why wouldn't you include a - 'cause there is a um a piece of electronics under there anyway, so why not give it a function. (Let's say I mean) could be anything, but oth- [29:48]
[29:34] Oh, we still need an okay button. [29:36]
[29:43] Hmm. Hmm. [29:45]
[29:47] Well, you could also shift the two buttons to be nicely aligned. [29:50]
[29:50] No, I don't think - because this is zero. Uh you want zero to be misaligned with the rest. Anyway, so this is the basic design, we wanna have um on and off - what are we missing? [30:0]
[29:53] Yeah. [29:53]
[30:02] If it was um - [30:4]
[30:02] Oh, we're pretty much missing an okay button, but we have a button up there which is still free, so. [30:8]
[30:06] Okay, so we want the remote to be the s- the side view actually, what I'm gonna draw, so. [30:12]
[30:15] Um [30:16]
[30:18] probably think you want the curve to be here, so you have your finger under here like this I suppose, okay. [30:24]
[30:23] Yeah, pretty much. [30:24]
[30:26] It's just gonna be s- [30:27]
[30:29] Hmm [30:29]
[30:32] Yeah, on the straight or what? Let's keep it at this. [30:35]
[30:37] So it would be like this. [30:38]
[30:40] Do we want something interesting with it or - see. [30:44]
[30:45] Would give us a light here. Maybe it's (born), you want it curved or what? Maybe you want [30:50]
[30:51] Well, I think it looks better curved, but that's probably uh - [30:54]
[30:51] (??) like this? [30:52]
[30:54] Will give us design problems because we have - [sigh] [30:59]
[30:55] Mm. [30:56]
[30:58] It can be curved. [30:59]
[30:58] Why? [30:59]
[30:59] I can be curved, because tha- yeah, it's a little bit more trendy to be curved. [31:4]
[31:03] It can be curved, okay. I think so. That's why I asked you. [31:6]
[31:09] Okay, so - [31:10]
[31:11] I would curve the whole actually. [31:13]
[31:14] Hmm? [31:14]
[31:15] I would curve the whole like uh like it hangs over your hand a little bit. [31:19]
[31:19] Oh crap. [31:20]
[31:21] Yeah. [31:21]
[31:23] Then it will bounce and you don't drop it easily. [31:25]
[31:25] (Yeah) uh. [31:26]
[31:30] Anyway, so we want to - a little more like this. [31:34]
[31:35] Yeah, something like that, yes. [31:36]
[31:36] Yeah. [31:36]
[31:36] And just - [31:37]
[31:40] Yes, exactly. [31:41]
[31:41] Stop the curve here or continue it? [31:43]
[31:43] I think continue like that. [31:45]
[31:46] Yeah. [31:47]
[31:47] Then there's also enough room for the electronics. [31:49]
[31:47] So we have our L_C_D_ screen, let's see. [31:49]
[31:50] (??) [31:51]
[31:51] But it pretty much looks like a banana (already). $ [31:55]
[31:52] $ [31:53]
[31:53] $ Yeah. [31:54]
[31:55] Let's make it yellow then uh. [31:56]
[31:55] Perfect. $ [31:56]
[31:55] Bana- it's banana visions. [31:56]
[31:56] It's fruit. $ [31:58]
[31:57] Yeah, it's perfect. [31:59]
[31:59] # So you have your L_C_D_ screen right here suppose. [32:3]
[32:09] # Um that would make - [32:12]
[32:13] We use the colours now, but - [32:14]
[32:16] Um - [32:17]
[32:19] Maybe once we can make a special edition in (accordance*) with (Chiquita). [32:22]
[32:22] $ [32:24]
[32:23] $ [32:23]
[32:23] Have ourselves sponsored. [32:24]
[32:23] $ [32:25]
[32:24] You get sponsor - now you get a free now with every pack of Chiquita. [32:27]
[32:27] Uh but it's a good trade-off for them if they can have their logo on it. [32:30]
[32:27] $ [32:28]
[32:32] So (it would give) the buttons here. [32:33]
[32:33] Or they can design their own cover. [32:34]
[32:35] Hmm. They might wanna be the first ones to uh - [32:37]
[32:35] We could set up a a marketing uh agreement. [32:39]
[32:35] I suppose I suppose we can put um - let's see. [32:40]
[32:37] Yeah. [32:38]
[32:41] Um - [32:42]
[32:42] Uh perhaps they can use it. [32:43]
[32:44] Or give a special edition uh with with - [32:47]
[32:46] Uh I suppose we can put the batteries in here, because it has the most space, for example. [32:51]
[32:52] Won't that be a problem with the L_C_D_ screen? [32:54]
[32:55] I don't think so, because it's the biggest part of the of of the uh - [32:58]
[32:56] Hmm. [32:57]
[32:58] Yeah, but the L_C_D_ screen probably needs # quite the chip. [33:1]
[33:00] Let's - [33:1]
[33:02] I think this is possible. [33:3]
[33:03] I think it's possible. I think it's the best place - yeah, you could also put 'em here, but # - [33:7]
[33:04] # Okay. [33:5]
[33:05] Huh. [33:6]
[33:07] It doesn't matter, you can actually uh place a chip for the L_C_D_ screen and - at the bottom, and and wire it, doesn't matter. [33:13]
[33:12] Okay, so we put the batteries here. [33:15]
[33:12] Okay, that's not a problem. Okay. [33:14]
[33:13] Okay. [33:13]
[33:19] [whistling?] [33:19]
[33:21] That's fine. [33:22]
[33:23] Yep. (Blah.) [33:24]
[33:23] $ [33:24]
[33:25] I think we get the idea*. $ [33:27]
[33:28] Um (??) what what are we missing here? Something - a speech recognition. Um [33:34]
[33:36] where do we want the microphone, for example, to be? On the side or under - or, for example, on top? Like here. [33:41]
[33:38] T- top? [33:39]
[33:39] Oh, basically the idea that I had was it to be pretty much in combination with the transmitter. You can talk to it like this. [33:48]
[33:40] On there. [33:40]
[33:43] I think on top. [33:43]
[33:44] (??) [33:45]
[33:50] Okay, I thought maybe it's - either be here or - because it's mi- it might interfere with the transmitter, I'm not sure. # [33:56]
[33:50] Yeah. [33:51]
[33:58] 'Cause the transmitter would be here. [33:59]
[33:59] Well, the email said it was a quite a small component, so I don't see that - [34:4]
[34:03] Why # - once again, like you said, the component can be somewhere at the bottom, while we wire the microphone up there. Anyway. [whistling] [34:10]
[34:12] Um - yeah, it could b- either be here or make a double microphone. [34:16]
[34:17] Hmm. [34:17]
[34:18] I wouldn't mind. [34:19]
[34:18] (Okay.) [34:19]
[34:19] It is I believe also able to talk. [34:21]
[34:22] It's able to talk to you. [34:23]
[34:23] I have a sample uh sample sensor and a speaker sensor. [34:27]
[34:28] A speaker sensor. [34:29]
[34:29] Uh the speaker sensor we already have, but s- I don't know what they exactly mean by a sample sensor. Could it talk back? Like uh g- uh give confirmation or something. [34:37]
[34:39] I think it can. I think if you have a a speech recognition component, then a s- speaking component is not that hard to to put in either. [34:46]
[34:41] Well, the - [34:42]
[34:42] I think so, i- I think it could. [34:44]
[34:46] Yeah. I mean it could be a - all this stuff could be integrated into the L_C_D_ screen, which could navigate with this, I suppose. Navigate through everything. If you have - I think you sh- I think the advanced options should be - I think it sh- the advanced option (??) should be integrated in the L_C_D_ screen of course, because you don't have to have a button for everything, you can just navigate through m- your menu that you have here for advanced options with this. Think that would be fine. S- that's w- m- would be making use of the L_C_D_ screen. [35:12]
[34:46] Hmm. [34:47]
[34:50] Hmm. [34:50]
[34:52] Hmm. [34:52]
[34:53] Hmm. # But - [34:55]
[34:54] Yeah, but do you actually need the remote talking back? [34:57]
[34:57] Mm-hmm. Yeah. [34:58]
[35:04] Hmm. [35:4]
[35:07] Hmm. [35:7]
[35:08] (??) [35:8]
[35:13] Hmm. [35:13]
[35:14] Mm. [35:15]
[35:15] We already have a sound component by the way, for the beep. [35:18]
[35:19] So, the beep. [35:21]
[35:19] Beep. [35:20]
[35:21] (??) [35:21]
[35:21] Beep. [35:21]
[35:22] Um, so the flashing of the beep, we have (- well, I don't think) we could - yeah, but you could put a speaker or something uh on on the side for example. [35:32]
[35:30] At the back, yeah, like that, or at the side. [35:33]
[35:32] Hmm. [35:32]
[35:35] For - how do you draw that again? $ [35:37]
[35:35] Which is (??). [35:36]
[35:40] Uh whatever, looks stupid. [35:41]
[35:44] So what's basically edi- the editi- idea, sorry, now? We need to stay here and work out (??) $ - [35:51]
[35:48] I think this is pretty - [35:49]
[35:50] I'm not sure. I should be getting new information, I guess. [35:54]
[35:52] Oh. [35:52]
[35:52] % I think you have to stay here, because we are supposed to - five minutes to finish the meeting. Oh, like my - the infor that I got was that you're - we're gonna work on our own, because you're gonna do the market market uh analysing uh - I suppose do the little work on th- your end report, so - the project report. [36:12]
[36:04] Yeah. [36:5]
[36:14] Okay. [36:15]
[36:14] Hmm. Okay, I think we're - everybody satisfied with the with the current design we have? (So it's) supposed to be rubber I think. Well, I think th- th- the remote control is gonna be black, because # we we forgot to talk about - I mean the the company colours are important apparently, so we have the logo up there. So are we gonna - base colour is black. [36:34]
[36:16] Well, I suppose (we'll -) [36:17]
[36:19] Yes. [36:19]
[36:20] # Uh it's fine. [36:21]
[36:21] Pretty much. [36:22]
[36:23] Round. [36:23]
[36:27] Why? [36:27]
[36:30] But we have [36:31]
[36:32] any company logo. We have - yes, but - and yellow. [36:35]
[36:36] And yeah, of course we can use yellow buttons or yellow navigation or whatever. [36:39]
[36:39] I would change, I would take a yellow remote control. To have it flashy, to have it - it's for young people. [36:44]
[36:40] Yellow bu- yellow control, it's - [36:42]
[36:43] Yeah, but when you use covers, (it's) basically easier to have a n- have a neutral colour on the base. [36:51]
[36:44] Okay. [36:45]
[36:45] Neet do be different. [36:46]
[36:46] It's the colour of the - [36:47]
[36:46] Well, don't don't stick yourself on the covers right now. [36:49]
[36:51] But don't stick yourself on the cover, because - [36:53]
[36:53] Hmm. [36:54]
[36:54] No, we're designing the remote control now, but taking that into consideration, it's better to have a neutral base colour than to have a flashy - [37:3]
[36:56] # But we need to be different. [36:57]
[37:03] Yeah, but the info - I think we should go with uh with the company colours, because it's what - specific info that I got from the project board, so I think we should go with that. [37:11]
[37:09] The young people want uh a trendy uh remote control, so colourful is - [37:15]
[37:12] Uh. [37:12]
[37:12] They want something trendy. [37:13]
[37:14] It's either black cover with yellow buttons or vice versa. And I would say take a yellow cover and black buttons. [37:19]
[37:19] It is more trendy, that's definitely true. [37:22]
[37:20] I think we should then take i- take a yellow. (??) yellow remote control. So let's see if if (we can do the LED) onto it. [37:27]
[37:21] To be different. [37:21]
[37:21] Yeah. [37:22]
[37:27] ($) [37:28]
[37:31] [whistling] [37:32]
[37:31] YOu have the basic colours, blue, green, red. [37:34]
[37:33] Uh (oh well). [37:34]
[37:34] Yeah, we have so many colours already. [37:36]
[37:36] You know what? I'm not gonna do this. That's up to you guys. [37:39]
[37:37] Oh, it's okay. [37:37]
[37:38] Uh no, it - I think it's good thing to be different and - [37:41]
[37:40] Yeah. Colourful, you you - [37:42]
[37:41] You do l- do lotsa nice nice design for for next meeting, we'll be done. I think we're all happy now. [37:48]
[37:46] Yeah. [37:46]
[37:49] I still don't have my scrollwheel though. $ # Uh it's - $ (??) it's true. [37:55]
[37:50] Yeah. [37:50]
[37:50] Yeah. [37:50]
[37:52] Stupid scrollwheel. [37:53]
[37:52] Oh, where would you like to put it? $ [37:54]
[37:53] $ Yeah. [37:54]
[37:55] (% Yeah.) I'm not sure # - I really, I'm no- I have no clue what we could use the scrollwheel for. [38:1]
[38:01] Uh you could use it for the channels and for the volume, but it's - has no real added value. [38:8]
[38:02] No, I forgot it. [38:3]
[38:03] Oh yeah. [38:3]
[38:04] No look, it - [38:5]
[38:04] You can - [38:5]
[38:05] It takes space, a lotta space, and it could - [38:8]
[38:07] No, that's not my point. It's not because it's functional, but it's just to add to the design, to have it flashy. It it has no function, I agree. I agree. [38:16]
[38:13] Ah may- [38:14]
[38:13] Yeah, but if it has no function, then - [38:16]
[38:15] I'm not sure if it - if it has no function, why even put it there? [38:21]
[38:18] # So many things have no functino, just design. [38:21]
[38:19] But uh uh a scroll for a channel s- selection or volume - [38:23]
[38:22] Hmm. Hmm. [38:23]
[38:23] I think channel selection would be annoying, because it just c- you could scroll past the channel or - [38:27]
[38:24] Bu- [38:25]
[38:27] Let's vote on it, then we don't have to talk about it any longer. What do you want? In or out? [38:32]
[38:27] Uh okay. [38:28]
[38:29] Uh okay. [38:30]
[38:32] # Basically I I don't see the - [38:34]
[38:33] Okay. You are out of course. You are - okay, clear. [38:38]
[38:35] # (Ah alright.) [38:36]
[38:35] Out. [38:36]
[38:37] No r- no scrollwheel, okay. Um I don't see anything missing really. $ Yeah, we should - too bad we (don't have to find it, we could have -) [38:46]
[38:44] # Do you have all your answers? Okay. [38:48]
[38:46] I have all my answers, yes. [38:48]
[38:48] Yeah, it's - I'm not sure if we're # if we're gonna get finance anyway, because I thought we cou- I thought it was gonna be an issue (at the first time we started). I thought it was gonna be a cost issue which material we were gonna take relative to the advanced chips or anything, so you just do whatever you like and uh doesn't care about the cost. [39:4]
[38:53] I have to (call us informed). [38:54]
[38:54] Hmm. [38:54]
[38:57] Hmm. That is - I have one question. [39:0]
[39:03] I only have one question with the material, but I don't have information that we've chosen rubber - [39:7]
[39:06] I think we're - rubber is not expensive. Definitely. [39:9]
[39:08] No, but can we make yellow rubber? I think so [39:11]
[39:11] You can make rubber in any colour. In any colour, so. I mean you (can't) make yellow titanium, but you can make yellow rubber. [39:17]
[39:11] Yes, you can colour rubber, yeah. [39:14]
[39:12] # Okay. [39:13]
[39:16] But we ha- we don't uh use our reco- we uh - removable cover? No, uh? [39:22]
[39:21] Uh i- we can make uh for example - it's just something you can click on it like uh that's - but it's not som- not - apparently that's not something we're working with in the basic design, so. [39:33]
[39:32] Maybe maybe later, maybe we can uh - [39:34]
[39:34] Yeah, it could be - it can be done, for e- [39:36]