[0:00]
Okay.
[0:39]
[0:01]
Okay. So now that we've all had a bit of time to think about it, um does anyone have any concrete proposals or do we want to just
[0:11]
[0:11]
go through people and start placing them and* kind of discuss as we go along?
[0:15]
[0:21]
I don't think there are concrete proposals.
[0:24]
[0:24]
Nope.
[0:25]
[0:26]
No, it's kind of - we should maybe find a m- method* to do $ stuff. Like, I don't know, choose one parameter.
[0:36]
[0:32]
$
[0:32]
[0:38]
Okay.
[0:39]
[0:39]
Okay.
[0:40]
[0:39]
The first parameter to choose people - to choose where to put people, right. I don't know maybe permanent staff and non-permanent staff, we know that professor will stay for a long time. We uh we don't know for the other -
[0:53]
[0:50]
Yeah.
[0:50]
[0:55]
Yeah, that's true.
[0:56]
[0:55]
So
[0:56]
[0:57]
maybe that could be the first parameter to take into account. Not just to have this dis-
[1:3]
[1:02]
Yeah, give them like the most comfortable offices and -
[1:5]
[1:04]
Yeah.
[1:5]
[1:05]
Yeah, and have this discussion every two years.
[1:7]
[1:08]
Yeah.
[1:8]
[1:09]
Because it's,
[1:9]
[1:10]
(you know -)
[1:11]
[1:12]
Yeah, this makes sense.
[1:13]
[1:13]
(That) makes sense for everyone. So we can choose where to put uh, I would say, the the the three first one of the list. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And yeah.
[1:30]
[1:15]
(Yeah.)
[1:16]
[1:18]
Susan, for example.
[1:19]
[1:23]
Mm-hmm.
[1:23]
[1:23]
'Cause @ a professor, but he's only here half time, so it's sort of a different situation.
[1:27]
[1:27]
And he's a professor at @, but not in Geneva, he just does research in Geneva.
[1:33]
[1:27]
Mm.
[1:28]
[1:32]
Mm and maybe the two other senior (Andre) and Nancy.
[1:36]
[1:36]
Yeah.
[1:36]
[1:37]
Okay, so let's
[1:38]
[1:37]
And then - Yeah.
[1:39]
[1:39]
go through that first. Um -
[1:43]
[1:40]
Mm.
[1:42]
[1:47]
So what do you think for uh -
[1:49]
[1:48]
(So -)
[1:49]
[1:50]
Susan and (Maggie) for example the -
[1:52]
[1:53]
the rooms for one person.
[1:55]
[1:57]
Yeah. And for Susan probably yeah, 'cause I think she prefers to have her own office.
[2:3]
[1:57]
Yeah, that could be an (idea*).
[1:59]
[2:00]
Yeah. Mm.
[2:2]
[2:03]
Yeah.
[2:3]
[2:04]
Um. Okay. Any preferences to which one?
[2:6]
[2:07]
Naturally.
[2:8]
[2:11]
'Kay. I put Susan here for now.
[2:13]
[2:13]
I can switch.
[2:13]
[2:14]
And then Maggie in the other one?
[2:16]
[2:16]
Yeah.
[2:17]
[2:16]
It's up to them I guess, you know.
[2:18]
[2:19]
No, it's up to us. $ They're not here so -
[2:24]
[2:19]
Yeah, two. $
[2:21]
[2:20]
Up to us? Why? I mean they they can switch later. They can switch later.
[2:25]
[2:26]
Um okay.
[2:27]
[2:32]
And then -
[2:34]
[2:32]
(??)
[2:34]
[2:34]
(Piret) next?
[2:36]
[2:36]
Yep*.
[2:38]
[2:37]
(We ne-)
[2:37]
[2:37]
So we need to put (Piret, Andre) and Nancy to room. To - The the question is now is do we want to put the three together or the three completely separate
[2:47]
[2:48]
with
[2:49]
[2:50]
other people.
[2:51]
[2:52]
Um -
[2:53]
[2:52]
I don't know, I would say not together. (Not re- ?? s- don't s-) Yeah, yeah.
[3:0]
[2:55]
Well, Pierrette has students and Andrei and @ don't. Well, does Andrei? S- he teaches but - okay.
[3:4]
[2:58]
Yeah, yeah.
[3:0]
[3:01]
Some, (uh) some. Yeah, but few, (less) than (Piret).
[3:6]
[3:02]
(??) some.
[3:3]
[3:05]
(Next) then (Piret).
[3:6]
[3:06]
Yeah.
[3:6]
[3:09]
So we have uh -
[3:10]
[3:13]
'Cause also if we're gonna put people together by projects then there's no sense to put them together, 'cause they all work on different projects.
[3:19]
[3:19]
Mm-hmm.
[3:19]
[3:20]
Right?
[3:21]
[3:21]
Yeah.
[3:21]
[3:23]
Um I just realised something. The two people room in the middle which have only one windows,
[3:32]
[3:25]
Mm?
[3:26]
[3:26]
Mm.
[3:26]
[3:32]
Yeah.
[3:32]
[3:33]
it's gonna be pretty hard to put two people inside that room.
[3:36]
[3:37]
'Cause they'll fight for the window.
[3:38]
[3:39]
Yeah.
[3:39]
[3:40]
Yeah, it's quite dark.
[3:41]
[3:41]
What about moving Gisella in there?
[3:43]
[3:44]
If she's in there half the time, she can have her desk near the window, and okay, she's not near the mailbox, but
[3:50]
[3:46]
Yeah. Except we - Yeah. And near the photocopier*.
[3:52]
[3:52]
but it maybe more sort of practical in terms of working environments for people.
[3:58]
[3:58]
Yeah.
[3:58]
[3:58]
Yeah.
[3:58]
[3:59]
Yeah, it would be nicer.
[4:0]
[4:02]
And what happened to the reading room?
[4:4]
[4:07]
But again, one of the reasons for putting the reading room where it is is so that you have -
[4:11]
[4:09]
Yeah, but you - I mean, uh I think, everybody is supposed to spend more time in their office than in the reading room. So we might think that it's better to have a more comfortable office than a more comfortable reading room, I don't know, you've changed the plan of the morning, I'm sorry, but I just realised that stupid architect put only one windows.
[4:31]
[4:11]
$
[4:11]
[4:12]
#
[4:13]
[4:15]
$ You think. $
[4:20]
[4:16]
$ (??)
[4:19]
[4:23]
Yeah, I agree, it's uh -
[4:25]
[4:28]
#
[4:28]
[4:31]
Yeah.
[4:31]
[4:33]
Who built this building? Do we know that? $
[4:36]
[4:35]
I don't know $.
[4:36]
[4:35]
$
[4:36]
[4:39]
I don't know. What do you think?
[4:41]
[4:41]
I don't know, we spent quite some time at the last meeting and - to decide this, but now we are just -
[4:47]
[4:42]
Yeah.
[4:43]
[4:45]
Yeah, I know, but in the last meeting nobody just
[4:47]
[4:48]
took attention at this one windows problem. And I think it is one problem.
[4:53]
[4:53]
Of course, but everybody had the documents before, so you could have studied them. (So ?? it's a good idea). Yeah, I'm -
[5:1]
[4:54]
Or what if you put -
[4:55]
[4:57]
Yeah, (you're true), I can (say) the thing to you and (somebody). $
[5:2]
[5:00]
Yeah, is (??) $
[5:3]
[5:01]
What if we put the two people that are fifty per cent in that room? Yeah.
[5:7]
[5:05]
In the -
[5:6]
[5:05]
The two (??) people? That's really welcoming and warming.
[5:9]
[5:10]
But they are only here fifty per cent.
[5:12]
[5:12]
Yeah.
[5:12]
[5:12]
Well, let's uh - How we can uh fill the three person rooms?
[5:16]
[5:18]
(What was that?) Say it again.
[5:20]
[5:19]
Uh how we ge- # Who we're gonna put in the three person rooms? I mean we have now uh two three person rooms left. And uh -
[5:29]
[5:32]
You know but the main problem we have the same number of place and the same number of people now. Yeah. And uh I just noticed that we have these two people room
[5:45]
[5:36]
Yeah, yeah. (We do.)
[5:39]
[5:38]
So everyone has to go somewhere.
[5:39]
[5:45]
And you also have one three person room with two windows.
[5:48]
[5:45]
with only one windows. You don't mind (to at all)? Okay, so, Nikos and you have to find - Yeah. You have to find somebody agree to come with you.
[6:3]
[5:47]
I don't mind going into this office.
[5:49]
[5:51]
@ Nikos volunteers.
[5:52]
[5:53]
$
[5:54]
[5:55]
Who you're taking with you?
[5:57]
[6:02]
$
[6:6]
[6:02]
$
[6:4]
[6:08]
Who would you put with you? Let's put a fifty per cent so -
[6:12]
[6:13]
Well, why not?
[6:14]
[6:15]
Okay. Well # 'kay so let's put David in there, yeah.
[6:19]
[6:16]
From the (I don't know) David. Yeah. You know David? You will learn to know him. $
[6:25]
[6:20]
No?
[6:20]
[6:22]
No.
[6:22]
[6:23]
You'll meet him. $ Okay.
[6:26]
[6:27]
So @ I'm just gonna
[6:30]
[6:32]
make a list on here of who we have.
[6:34]
[6:39]
@ keep talking.
[6:40]
[6:40]
So David and Nikos, it's done.
[6:42]
[6:44]
And and (Piret)?
[6:47]
[6:44]
So, where were we? Uh (Ivette) and (Andre), Nancy?
[6:49]
[6:55]
Maybe we can put (Piret) and her two two P_H_D_ students into one room?
[6:59]
[7:02]
Yeah, why not?
[7:2]
[7:03]
How many P_H_D_ student does she have?
[7:6]
[7:06]
All two (Mary-Anns) or -
[7:8]
[7:09]
And me.
[7:10]
[7:11]
And you too, okay. $ So (we ??) $
[7:19]
[7:11]
(You can't say?)
[7:12]
[7:13]
$ Yes, I'm being a P_H_D_. # Yes. Officially. $ # Um.
[7:22]
[7:18]
@ with Pierrette.
[7:19]
[7:20]
$
[7:21]
[7:27]
Okay, so David, Nikos, Gisella, Maggie and Susan are done.
[7:32]
[7:39]
Okay.
[7:39]
[7:40]
So and can you put the the map again, so we see what happen.
[7:44]
[7:42]
Yeah.
[7:43]
[7:44]
Mm-hmm.
[7:44]
[7:45]
Um.
[7:46]
[7:49]
That's - that might be a good idea to put (Piret) with two P_H_D_ student, whoever they are.
[7:55]
[7:54]
Okay. Should we be nice and give them three windows?
[7:57]
[7:57]
Um yeah, mayb- maybe the other one would be more convenient if we are all working on the same project. So we are close by.
[8:5]
[8:05]
Okay.
[8:6]
[8:07]
Okay.
[8:7]
[8:10]
So (Piret) and
[8:11]
[8:12]
the two (Mary-Anns)?
[8:14]
[8:14]
$ That won't get confusing. $
[8:16]
[8:16]
$ Yeah, I'd like to have a view to the mountains, but well - $
[8:23]
[8:20]
(Uh) then (??) put me with (Mary-Ann) and (Piret), it's alright.
[8:24]
[8:25]
And we put (Mary-Ann) in front if she want to be -
[8:28]
[8:30]
Where? Here?
[8:30]
[8:30]
No, on the room on the opposite - Oh no, that's the old town view.
[8:35]
[8:32]
Oh, here.
[8:33]
[8:35]
Oh that's - that will be -
[8:37]
[8:36]
Would have to be here or the other three person room.
[8:38]
[8:41]
(??)
[8:42]
[8:43]
Yeah, it's - Yeah, old town is as well as well - Yeah, that's alright. (??) $ And that's good, because there are (Piret, Mary-Ann), Nikos there on the other side of the corridor, so it's - Yeah.
[9:0]
[8:43]
Pick a room. $
[8:45]
[8:45]
Pick a room. Is that alright? Is the old town view beautiful enough?
[8:50]
[8:49]
Well she's not that far if she's like like in this one here.
[8:53]
[8:57]
Mm. Yeah. Okay, so (Mary-Ann), and who do you want to work with?
[9:4]
[8:58]
'Kay so you want this one?
[8:59]
[9:07]
(??)
[9:8]
[9:08]
$
[9:13]
[9:09]
$ Nancy, Martin, (Piret)? No, (Piret) is done.
[9:14]
[9:14]
And -
[9:15]
[9:15]
(Andre, Elena), Maria and Agnes. Okay. Okay, so put (Elena) with um -
[9:26]
[9:18]
Mm.
[9:18]
[9:18]
Yeah, but that - Yeah, (yeah I mean) it would be good. And (actually Liz) is working for the same project as well.
[9:23]
[9:24]
Okay. @.
[9:26]
[9:24]
'Kay.
[9:24]
[9:27]
(With) that beautiful laughter. $
[9:31]
[9:28]
Yeah.
[9:29]
[9:29]
Yalina.
[9:30]
[9:30]
$ Okay?
[9:31]
[9:34]
And we have uh
[9:36]
[9:36]
@
[9:38]
[9:38]
(now -)
[9:39]
[9:43]
Do you think it's a good idea to put Martin and (Andre) together, since they are working on the same project?
[9:48]
[9:49]
Yeah. That could work.
[9:50]
[9:52]
And anyway, Martin is just a fifty per cent, (you know) .
[9:55]
[9:56]
Yeah. And we might put Martin and (Andre) and someone else in the three person room. Since he's the fifty per cent, it's a good -
[10:5]
[9:57]
(??)
[9:57]
[10:01]
In room - yeah.
[10:3]
[10:07]
Yeah.
[10:7]
[10:07]
Yeah.
[10:8]
[10:08]
Okay.
[10:8]
[10:13]
Mm.
[10:15]
[10:16]
I guess I can go in there, 'cause Martin and I wor- are working on the sort of the same thing.
[10:21]
[10:21]
Okay.
[10:22]
[10:22]
Okay.
[10:22]
[10:25]
And that leaves -
[10:26]
[10:26]
Maria and Nancy.
[10:28]
[10:27]
And Nancy.
[10:29]
[10:27]
And Nancy.
[10:29]
[10:32]
That's really strange.
[10:33]
[10:33]
That's all?
[10:33]
[10:34]
Yeah, that's a weird combination. $
[10:37]
[10:38]
Why?
[10:39]
[10:44]
$
[10:44]
[10:45]
W- Why don't we move Maria to this -
[10:56]
[10:46]
(??)
[10:49]
[10:46]
So, what do we think about that? $
[10:49]
[10:57]
No, it's not that. It's just you've almost got like a project split,
[11:1]
[10:57]
If you think (so).
[10:58]
[11:02]
except that you don't, because
[11:5]
[11:08]
Nancy and Maggie and I work on premindia* - parmenidy*- # parmenidies*. And then Andrei, Martin, Maria and I also work on @.
[11:19]
[11:13]
Mm mm yeah.
[11:14]
[11:21]
And sort of Susan. Although the Susan and Maggie thing we can't really change.
[11:27]
[11:24]
I think this project thing is not good thing.
[11:27]
[11:28]
This project split in, I mean.
[11:30]
[11:30]
No.
[11:31]
[11:31]
Splitting by project.
[11:33]
[11:34]
But then we should split the little @ party up.
[11:37]
[11:38]
Yeah. No but if you if* if you split by project you put me in one person room. $
[11:47]
[11:39]
Yeah, if you can -
[11:40]
[11:43]
$ All on your own.
[11:46]
[11:44]
$ Oh.
[11:46]
[11:47]
$
[11:47]
[11:54]
Hmm.
[11:54]
[12:10]
That's hard.
[12:11]
[12:13]
See I would put it the other way. I would put the room with Martin in it in the two window room, 'cause he's fifty per cent, so then at least
[12:19]
[12:20]
the other two people get -
[12:21]
[12:23]
Could you say that again?
[12:24]
[12:25]
Put Martin in the three person room with # two windows.
[12:29]
[12:30]
Since he's fifty per cent.
[12:32]
[12:34]
So you just
[12:35]
[12:37]
you just move him or -
[12:39]
[12:39]
Not two groups?
[12:41]
[12:41]
Either way. Well I don't know for splitting up
[12:44]
[12:46]
But is this about windows or is it about - It it it must be functional. If you and Martin work on the same project then -
[12:52]
[12:46]
people or -
[12:48]
[12:48]
Yeah, that was my question.
[12:50]
[12:50]
Yeah.
[12:50]
[12:54]
Yeah, I mean uh # what's wrong with (??) with whom you'd like to work in the same office. I mean, is it important to have someone uh from the same project or um -
[13:4]
[12:55]
Well I'm trying to optimise.
[12:56]
[13:04]
I don't think it's necessarily so important to be in the same office with someone
[13:8]
[13:08]
Yeah.
[13:9]
[13:09]
if you're working on the same project.
[13:11]
[13:10]
Yeah, we can Skype each other, yeah. $ (?? Yeah.)
[13:20]
[13:12]
No, (??) disturb all the people.
[13:16]
[13:12]
$ 'Cause you're too lazy to get up and walk next door. #
[13:18]
[13:14]
$
[13:14]
[13:16]
Uh-huh.
[13:17]
[13:17]
We're going disturb all the people by skyping all the time.
[13:20]
[13:21]
I don't know like right now I share an office with Bruno. We don't work on any projects together.
[13:26]
[13:27]
Coffee time and - That's important project too, but uh - Gossiping and stuff like that. Mm.
[13:34]
[13:28]
Yeah. Of course. But I mean # that's fine. Like I don't need to be in the same office with someone who works on @ or
[13:39]
[13:29]
$
[13:30]
[13:39]
Yeah.
[13:39]
[13:39]
someone who works on parmenidies*.
[13:41]
[13:42]
It's not like - $ yeah.
[13:47]
[13:43]
It's quite funny to to to (hear) $ all the
[13:46]
[13:47]
activities around you. And not always the same stuff.
[13:51]
[13:50]
Yeah, that's (also) -
[13:52]
[13:52]
(??) when it's activity that you don't understand or $ - Yeah.
[13:59]
[13:55]
Know anything about yeah. You hear things out of context. @ What? $
[13:59]
[13:59]
I agree, but the setup is pretty good now. So Bruno is not (?? to) sharing um (?? to your) office? Uh I'm not sharing somebody with I work on the same project.
[14:10]
[14:08]
Yeah.
[14:8]
[14:08]
Okay.
[14:9]
[14:09]
(Though) that's quite nice.
[14:11]
[14:11]
Yeah, yeah.
[14:12]
[14:11]
Yeah, I - Yeah. (I don't ??), you were saying that uh Marie and Nancy doesn't fit $ together in the same -
[14:20]
[14:18]
I just can't really see them sharing an office, I don't know why.
[14:22]
[14:21]
So what you say if you change the office uh, I don't know, and you work with Nancy or -
[14:29]
[14:33]
(??) Yeah, I don't know.
[14:35]
[14:34]
Or we put Andrei and Nancy to- Nancy together 'cause they're starting that new
[14:38]
[14:39]
project. And then put Maria with
[14:44]
[14:40]
Oh yeah.
[14:41]
[14:41]
For example?
[14:42]
[14:44]
Martin and you, yeah.
[14:46]
[14:45]
me and Martha. I can see that working a bit better.
[14:49]
[14:46]
Mm yeah. Yeah, okay, why not.
[14:49]
[14:46]
Yeah.
[14:46]
[14:47]
(Sounds okay.)
[14:48]
[14:55]
(??)
[14:56]
[14:56]
Hmm.
[14:58]
[15:04]
Mm.
[15:5]
[15:17]
(What do you say?)
[15:18]
[15:17]
I'm not totally convinced.
[15:19]
[15:20]
Sorry?
[15:20]
[15:20]
I'm not convinced (about this). I don't know.
[15:24]
[15:21]
No, what's (??)?
[15:23]
[15:30]
Yeah, what is it now?
[15:32]
[15:32]
$
[15:33]
[15:33]
I thought you were saying you didn't wanna be in a three person room. First of all $ -
[15:39]
[15:35]
Yeah. (??) From the beginning I said the three person room it's quite - I mean it's a disadvantage*.
[15:46]
[15:37]
$ And now you are you are changing your mind all the time.
[15:41]
[15:39]
Somebody has to -
[15:41]
[15:46]
Yeah, but if you work with the people like (Piret) and (Mary-Ann) uh?
[15:50]
[15:47]
#
[15:48]
[15:50]
And um
[15:51]
[15:56]
to change a little bit this disadvantage* we put somebody fifty per cent, (in the)
[16:0]
[16:00]
Yeah. And put David - but then you and Nikos have the window problem, which is why I still think we should put Gisella in that room, because
[16:11]
[16:00]
three person room, so we could do the same in the (three) person rooms, but there is still this problem - Yeah.
[16:10]
[16:11]
Yeah.
[16:11]
[16:12]
it's -
[16:13]
[16:14]
She gets the window, the @ whatever, he's there for two months, it's their problem. Yeah. $ Not for enjoying the view. $
[16:25]
[16:14]
(Well, at -)
[16:15]
[16:18]
(An -) Yeah, an a (^stagieur^), it's here for working. (??) Exactly.
[16:26]
[16:25]
Exactly.
[16:26]
[16:27]
So -
[16:28]
[16:27]
Uh well uh -
[16:28]
[16:27]
And you would always (forgive) Geneva, so there is no view. $
[16:32]
[16:29]
$
[16:33]
[16:32]
(Piret) is having quite a
[16:34]
[16:34]
unadvantaged situation, because there are (Mary-Ann) and Bruno who are having uh reception hours. (??) Yeah, so it's quite a
[16:47]
[16:42]
Yeah, but if you put -
[16:44]
[16:43]
And (Piret) as well. We uh all have reception hours.
[16:46]
[16:49]
traffic there I would say.
[16:51]
[16:49]
Yeah.
[16:51]
[16:51]
So what if we
[16:52]
[16:53]
switch - no.
[16:55]
[16:56]
Well, will there be wireless in the building? I mean, if there are reception hours, so somebody could move to the reading room, and have people -
[17:3]
[17:01]
Yeah.
[17:2]
[17:03]
You have to have a computer with wireless.
[17:4]
[17:06]
(Uh isn't the case? Doesn't everybody has one? No?
[17:8]
[17:07]
No. Well, most of us first of all have desktop computers. $ @ pick up your desktop and - plus you can't assume that you can just use the reading room for reception hours.
[17:19]
[17:08]
No.
[17:9]
[17:11]
(So.)
[17:12]
[17:13]
Well, of course, (if you ??)
[17:15]
[17:13]
You can move with your desktop.
[17:15]
[17:20]
No.
[17:20]
[17:21]
Right. Like if people are actually using it as a reading room.
[17:24]
[17:22]
#
[17:22]
[17:23]
The aim was having a room - common room for reading or -
[17:27]
[17:23]
(Mm.)
[17:24]
[17:26]
Yeah.
[17:26]
[17:29]
@.
[17:30]
[17:31]
Can we say we're gonna move Gisella here?
[17:33]
[17:34]
Yeah, okay.
[17:35]
[17:34]
Yeah.
[17:34]
[17:35]
And then
[17:36]
[17:37]
I think that gives us a little bit more flexibility to play with moving people around. Goes here.
[17:44]
[17:39]
Yeah.
[17:40]
[17:41]
Okay, can we say that David uh - Yeah. Instead of -
[17:45]
[17:47]
You were the first one on the list, but if you wanna remove someone else -
[17:50]
[17:48]
Okay, but (okay). No, because I was thinking of we can um
[17:53]
[17:54]
having these two office which are near to the lift -
[17:57]
[17:57]
give this office for reception people.
[18:1]
[18:02]
For six people. $
[18:5]
[18:02]
If the (??). We are (Piret), the two (Mary-Ann) and I, are receivi- and Maggie and Susan are receiving a lot of student. So we -
[18:14]
[18:03]
Yeah.
[18:3]
[18:10]
Mm-hmm. So what if we put you with - yeah. Will you have @. $ Okay, so -
[18:26]
[18:15]
with the Finnish for example, if you want to. Yeah, and so that's (??) - Yeah, yeah, okay. ^Lopeta^. Yeah, yeah. That's nice to have a corner student - I mean, a student area.
[18:36]
[18:17]
$ Well, (you g-) don't have - You al- already speak quite well Finnish*, so (??) get along, yeah. $ Yes, I will.
[18:29]
[18:30]
I'm just putting Yalina in so we don't -
[18:32]
[18:37]
You know what I mean. Yeah, to find us and it's also quite noisy when you have this kind of
[18:45]
[18:37]
Ps- It's easy for them to
[18:40]
[18:38]
Yeah.
[18:39]
[18:41]
find people.
[18:42]
[18:44]
Mm-hmm.
[18:44]
[18:46]
(A riot) of student before the exams. So if you work (??) and you have this -
[18:52]
[18:48]
Yeah.
[18:49]
[18:49]
Mm.
[18:50]
[18:51]
Mm-hmm.
[18:52]
[18:59]
(??)
[19:0]
[19:02]
(??) Mm-hmm, I have no problem with that.
[19:5]
[19:02]
(??)
[19:3]
[19:02]
Or do you wanna go somewhere else?
[19:3]
[19:06]
Um.
[19:7]
[19:10]
So and the photocopier* is still -
[19:12]
[19:12]
Here.
[19:13]
[19:12]
Yeah.
[19:13]
[19:13]
Yeah, we have to (prune a lot) from the other side of the -
[19:16]
[19:17]
But oh well.
[19:18]
[19:18]
You just don't photocopy.
[19:19]
[19:21]
Yeah, who does anyway?
[19:22]
[19:24]
Yeah, the people having students. $
[19:28]
[19:26]
Yeah.
[19:28]
[19:29]
So maybe you and Bruno should take this office?
[19:32]
[19:33]
No, but it's too far from -
[19:36]
[19:35]
Well you have the other
[19:36]
[19:37]
Yeah.
[19:37]
[19:38]
lift.
[19:39]
[19:41]
Okay.
[19:41]
[19:43]
Yeah, if we change the
[19:45]
[19:45]
The switch?
[19:46]
[19:46]
three people,
[19:47]
[19:48]
(Piret, Mary-Ann), David* David
[19:50]
[19:52]
With # here?
[19:53]
[19:53]
with here and uh -
[19:54]
[19:56]
Yeah.
[19:56]
[19:57]
Yeah, it's a good idea.
[19:58]
[20:02]
So like that and then move you to -
[20:4]
[20:02]
That's quite good. And then - Yeah.
[20:4]
[20:05]
We have a three windows' room. With view everywhere. Aha. Yeah. (??)
[20:21]
[20:07]
Yeah. $ We got it. $
[20:11]
[20:11]
# That's what the plan was. From the beginning.
[20:15]
[20:13]
With the mounti- Ah my mountains, yes (I definitely want to -)
[20:17]
[20:16]
Do you get the photocopying noise. Now we are all gonna come photocopy just to annoy you. $
[20:20]
[20:19]
(??), yeah. $
[20:24]
[20:22]
$
[20:24]
[20:22]
$ And bathrooms are nearby.
[20:25]
[20:22]
$ Yeah and -
[20:27]
[20:30]
Okay.
[20:31]
[20:36]
I think that's quite nice.
[20:37]
[20:40]
Or did - was the id-
[20:42]
[20:43]
I should start start making full sentences.
[20:46]
[20:46]
What about the -
[20:47]
[20:46]
What about $ -
[20:47]
[20:46]
$
[20:47]
[20:46]
$
[20:47]
[20:50]
I was thinking about moving Pierrette and Marianne into a two person office rather than a three person office.
[20:57]
[20:57]
And then? And put David -
[21:1]
[20:58]
But - #
[21:0]
[21:01]
$
[21:2]
[21:01]
With Andrei and Nancy, for example.
[21:3]
[21:03]
In a two person office? And why?
[21:6]
[21:04]
No, in a three person office. Because if they have reception -
[21:10]
[21:07]
Yeah (??).
[21:9]
[21:12]
I know, I thought you were saying that
[21:13]
[21:14]
Pierrette should have a smaller office,
[21:16]
[21:17]
or be in a smaller office, because of reception or something, or did I just completely misunderstand?
[21:23]
[21:23]
No, no, the reason to put (Piret) and (Mary-Ann) and (with Mary-Ann) and I together is because of the noise we make by receiving student.
[21:34]
[21:33]
Okay.
[21:33]
[21:33]
$
[21:33]
[21:36]
And then the reason to put David in this office it's because - Yeah, it's fifty per cent in a three
[21:41]
[21:38]
Is because he's fifty per cent, okay.
[21:40]
[21:39]
Fifty per cent, yeah.
[21:40]
[21:41]
Okay, that works.
[21:43]
[21:43]
um
[21:43]
[21:44]
place office.
[21:45]
[21:47]
Um.
[21:48]
[21:56]
That sounds nice, no?
[21:58]
[21:58]
Yeah, it's looks good.
[21:59]
[22:01]
Mm-hmm.
[22:1]
[22:04]
And I think we do have the best office uh. It's a kind of dictatorship to decision, but we are here to make a decision, so -
[22:15]
[22:06]
Yeah, I think too. I'm quite happy with it.
[22:9]
[22:10]
$
[22:13]
[22:10]
$
[22:13]
[22:17]
And Agnes, you're gonna sell this to the administrator?
[22:20]
[22:20]
I'm going to try. Yes.
[22:23]
[22:21]
Yeah.
[22:21]
[22:23]
Yeah. So?
[22:24]
[22:25]
'Kay, what arguments do I need?
[22:27]
[22:29]
Well, we have the the group and students here. Although you still have Susan and Maggie over here.
[22:36]
[22:30]
The argument of student. Yeah. You can also s- Oh, yeah.
[22:38]
[22:37]
Yeah, but it's quite logical to have the - for the professors one person rooms, I I think.
[22:43]
[22:39]
Yeah. Yeah.
[22:43]
[22:39]
Yeah.
[22:40]
[22:40]
Yeah.
[22:41]
[22:56]
Mm.
[22:57]
[22:58]
So it is sort of a - well, no, it's not a project split.
[23:1]
[23:02]
It's weird, 'cause it kind of is and kind of isn't.
[23:5]
[23:07]
Because Maria and Martin and I work all work on the same project, and then Andrei and Nancy work on the same project, and Pierrette n- yeah.
[23:16]
[23:10]
Yeah.
[23:10]
[23:13]
And (Pierre) -
[23:15]
[23:14]
Yeah, but we all work on different projects so we can't -
[23:17]
[23:22]
What is the little square d- you put - Oh, is it printer? And the photocopier*? Okay.
[23:26]
[23:24]
(??) Yeah.
[23:26]
[23:25]
And yeah.
[23:26]
[23:38]
That's quite fine.
[23:39]
[23:38]
That's quite fine.
[23:39]
[23:39]
Okay, let me just write down the arguments for why um -
[23:43]
[23:43]
Student reception.
[23:45]
[23:44]
(Uh) one suggestion, if possible, we could move me and (Elena) to the office where (Andre) and Nancy are now.
[23:50]
[23:46]
Mm-hmm.
[23:46]
[23:50]
$ You just want a bigger window.
[23:52]
[23:52]
No, I I just - It's just more convenient if I'm closer with my -
[23:56]
[23:58]
the partners of my project.
[24:0]
[23:58]
You.
[23:58]
[24:00]
Okay.
[24:1]
[24:00]
We can skype (our ?? set). $
[24:5]
[24:01]
$
[24:4]
[24:03]
$
[24:5]
[24:10]
No yeah, that's fine.
[24:11]
[24:11]
Happy?
[24:12]
[24:17]
So the areguments are uh student reception
[24:22]
[24:18]
Yeah.
[24:19]
[24:24]
in one corner.
[24:25]
[24:37]
That's noise reduction.
[24:39]
[24:39]
Yeah.
[24:39]
[24:41]
The fifty per cent
[24:42]
[24:42]
$
[24:44]
[24:43]
staff
[24:43]
[24:45]
in the three
[24:46]
[24:46]
Person rooms.
[24:48]
[24:47]
person room.
[24:48]
[24:59]
Okay.
[25:0]
[25:00]
And the projects they're they are quite well grouped actually (now).
[25:3]
[25:04]
Now they are, yeah.
[25:5]
[25:04]
Yeah.
[25:5]
[25:05]
Yeah.
[25:5]
[25:06]
And um the two mm - And the two professor is one two single.
[25:13]
[25:08]
Except for David, but we can't do anything about that.
[25:10]
[25:19]
And well (Gisella) she is kind of
[25:21]
[25:22]
in the middle.
[25:23]
[25:23]
Yeah.
[25:24]
[25:25]
(??)
[25:26]
[25:25]
She's the heart of the (??).
[25:28]
[25:26]
Yeah, (??). $
[25:29]
[25:29]
And since you nee- you will meet the administrator, can we ask for uh coffee machine somewhere. Yeah, or in that hall*. I mean, the sixth floor, there is no coffee machine (in the sixth floor).
[25:45]
[25:37]
In the reading room, that would be good.
[25:39]
[25:39]
#
[25:40]
[25:41]
It's not (a question of -)
[25:44]
[25:42]
$ Ah it's not (ocurred to you), ah it's -
[25:45]
[25:45]
You mean like
[25:46]
[25:47]
a little machine or a vending machine?
[25:50]
[25:47]
No no, um a vending machine.
[25:50]
[25:50]
'Kay.
[25:51]
[25:51]
The little machine, I think, would be harder to sell, but -
[25:54]
[25:55]
@.
[25:56]
[25:58]
I will.
[25:59]
[25:59]
Yeah, good coffee.
[26:0]
[26:01]
(Wi-) with good coffee. Italian one, please.
[26:4]
[26:02]
Yeah. $ Quite strong, a strong good coffee.
[26:7]
[26:02]
$ Nespresso*? $
[26:11]
[26:08]
Yeah. And herb tea for the afternoon.
[26:15]
[26:08]
$
[26:10]
[26:12]
Uh yeah. $
[26:13]
[26:12]
With the good strong coffee. What did you say, hot tea?
[26:17]
[26:15]
Yeah.
[26:15]
[26:17]
# Herb tea.
[26:18]
[26:19]
For the afternoon, yeah. 'Cause with strong coffee I don't t- sleep. $ Yeah.
[26:27]
[26:19]
Oh, herb tea.
[26:20]
[26:23]
$
[26:25]
[26:24]
$
[26:25]
[26:25]
If you late - uh you work late, yeah. And you drink uh coffee, yeah.
[26:30]
[26:29]
Yeah yeah.
[26:30]
[26:34]
And do we know if there will be air conditioning?
[26:37]
[26:39]
Is there actually a smoking uh area somewhere?
[26:42]
[26:43]
Nope. Non-smoking building.
[26:44]
[26:45]
Yeah, but we (here) - Okay. We have the terrasse still on the sixth floor or - (??). No. No- Not (??). They have to go down, yeah.
[26:56]
[26:49]
No no no, there is no terrasse on that building.
[26:53]
[26:52]
No, they'll have to go down. $
[26:55]
[26:57]
So, no we not gonna change the plan only for the smokers.
[27:1]
[27:01]
So let's -
[27:1]
[27:01]
(Oh) it's it's ideal for Nancy, she (??) just very close to the lifts.
[27:4]
[27:02]
Yeah, nl- yeah.
[27:3]
[27:05]
Exactly. As well, yeah.
[27:8]
[27:05]
And Susan @ Maggie close enough, yeah.
[27:8]
[27:05]
And Susan and Maggie (uh) as well.
[27:8]
[27:12]
I think it's fine.
[27:14]
[27:15]
Okay.
[27:16]
[27:26]
Excellent, yeah.
[27:27]
[27:27]
Yeah, I think it's okay. Let's see what the the other ones will say.
[27:31]
[27:28]
Okay. Is everyone happy with that?
[27:31]
[27:34]
Yeah, I think so.
[27:35]
[27:39]
Just checking that we actually have everyone, but I think we do.
[27:42]
[27:43]
So when exactly are we supposed to move?
[27:45]
[27:46]
In - Was it - (Well I said) three weeks.
[27:50]
[27:48]
Three rooms.
[27:49]
[27:49]
Three weeks. So they've set up everything, wiring, # internet, or what's the (?? as far as we know)?
[27:58]
[27:57]
As far as I know, yeah. As far as I know basically we pack up one day, the movers come, take all our stuff, put into the red boxes. So when you get there the next day, all your stuff is already in your office.
[28:8]
[28:02]
Mm.
[28:2]
[28:08]
Wow.
[28:8]
[28:09]
And all the I_T_s and everything is set up. They're trying.
[28:13]
[28:10]
That's very professional (yeah).
[28:11]
[28:13]
Mm.
[28:14]
[28:14]
So, we'll see. Make sure you leave all your boxes properly.
[28:18]
[28:18]
$
[28:19]
[28:21]
Um $ especially the (Mary-Anns).
[28:23]
[28:24]
My boxies. Ah. $ Yeah. (There is ??)
[28:31]
[28:24]
(Uh can -) Can we think of putting a white board somewhere in the hall? For general information? Yeah.
[28:39]
[28:26]
Yes, so they won't confuse it - (confuse it) the other (Mary-Ann's) boxes.
[28:29]
[28:35]
Uh we can try.
[28:36]
[28:37]
I can ask them.
[28:38]
[28:37]
Might be a good idea.
[28:38]
[28:42]
Well, mai- mailing lists.
[28:43]
[28:44]
Of course, you can mail (??).
[28:46]
[28:47]
But that's not really -
[28:48]
[28:47]
Yeah, but I mean you have a nice poster of the next conference, you don't (??). You know (??). A b- a big board with -
[28:56]
[28:51]
Uh okay, yeah, posters, okay. That's kind of thing. Yeah. Yes, sure*.
[28:56]
[28:58]
Um where -
[29:0]
[29:01]
(Like) along (Gisella's) -
[29:4]
[29:02]
Along one of the walls.
[29:4]
[29:03]
Yeah.
[29:4]
[29:06]
Or in front of the reading room or -
[29:8]
[29:10]
Yeah. We can put poseters on.
[29:16]
[29:11]
Are there lots of walls?
[29:12]
[29:12]
Yeah.
[29:13]
[29:15]
Okay, so -
[29:15]
[29:17]
Along that bottom (??) somewhere.
[29:19]
[29:18]
Mm (no).
[29:19]
[29:18]
Mm yeah, yeah.
[29:19]
[29:30]
Okay.
[29:31]
[29:33]
Anything else I need to ask (you)?
[29:35]
[29:40]
Mm.
[29:40]
[29:41]
No more special
[29:43]
[29:44]
mm wishes.
[29:45]
[29:50]
I don't - Actually (maybe may need to s- work out).
[29:53]
[29:55]
Mm.
[29:56]
[29:57]
That's not (hussle). Um who -
[30:1]
[30:03]
I don't know if we need to sort out who sits where, 'cause if they're gonna plug everything and set everything up. Yeah. Yeah.
[30:18]
[30:09]
I think it's everybody's responsibility* to find
[30:13]
[30:13]
if they prefer to be in front of, back to window or whatever. I mean, if we start doing that then (??) -
[30:22]
[30:22]
Yeah, we don't want to (??).
[30:25]
[30:23]
We are all adults, so I think we can all speak and -
[30:26]
[30:25]
Yeah, no, no.
[30:26]
[30:27]
I just can't remember whether they're actually gonna set everything up for us or not, but we can change it I guess.
[30:34]
[30:29]
Uh okay.
[30:30]
[30:32]
I hope, yeah.
[30:34]
[30:37]
Okay.
[30:38]
[30:38]
Okay.
[30:39]
[30:39]
That's it then.
[30:40]
[30:47]
Can you mail a copy of that to everybody?
[30:49]
[30:51]
Not right now, 'cause I'm not connected to the internet.
[30:53]
[30:57]
But I will.
[30:58]
[30:59]
Okay.
[30:59]
[31:01]
Okay.
[31:1]
[31:02]
Good, (then then -)
[31:3]