00:00	$
00:00	$
00:02	Are you sure I got it all - head's kinda small. Okay. @
00:07	How're we placed in terms of the - alright.
00:10	We're okay?
00:14	# Guess I should probably try to sit up straight.
00:16	$
00:19	Like that? Okay, cool.
00:21	We're good?
00:24	Oh, I think mine's fallen off.
00:25	It fell -
00:27	That's why.
00:35	I guess it's gonna be hard to drink coffee. Mm. Uh okay.
00:38	$
00:40	$
00:42	Ah.
00:43	Okay?
00:46	# Right, so I'm just gonna start this PowerPoint real quick. Yeah, PowerPoint. Yeah, well, you know, # # # #.
00:51	$
00:51	Wow.
00:53	Very official.
01:07	$
01:08	$
01:08	Yeah I kinda like this I'm kinda getting into it. Right. Um. So just to kick off the meeting basically um so we're working now for a real reaction, this is uh so it- # right.
01:24	Just got an agenda to set out what we're gonna try to accomplish in this particular first meeting. Um #
01:31	We're gonna just do a quick opening and we can hopefully all get acquainted with one another um then we're gonna start - talk a little bit about tool training.
01:38	Essentially that means getting used to the only thing that we haven't tried out yet, the whiteboard. # Um # we've got a general plan for the project how we're gonna go about accomplishing this and then just a bit of discussion close up. Um I @ guess you know game or something um # in real life um so yeah basically
01:59	I want to - I'm just gonna - you got - of course you can discuss that, I'm thinking about um # uh proposing that since we've got this weird blend of ourselves and our roles that we just don't ask, don't tell. # Um so um if you say something about marketing, right, sorted, um $ y- is-
02:18	$ You're just gonna believe me, we'll go from there. Fair enough.
02:19	$
02:21	Exactly. Um I mean obvi- if if you guys - if if at the same time if you - like logically if something doesn't - like if I'm like we're gonna sell a remote control that's the size of this paper book you know
02:31	um you say like well that doesn't seem like such a good idea because of X_ obviously go with it. I mean we'll discuss it but
02:37	I'm not gonna ask do you know that or uh yeah it seems like # yeah yeah exactly so, 'cause we're - what we're sort of role playing is y- g- yeah you're gonna tap into your own knowledge as well # um.
02:40	Prove it yeah, okay.
02:48	And that's the same for your when we do introductions I mean um and you talk about your background you know have fun, you know maybe you went to um #
02:55	uh you know maybe i- you're like in Maine you went to U_C_S_B_ but you wanna say you went to Harvard or something like that, why not, you know you can - this is you know I guess we can have a little bit of fun with it. So are you guys okay with that does that seem logical?
03:01	$
03:01	$
03:08	Oh yeah, that's fine.
03:09	Sure.
03:10	Works for me.
03:10	Sweet.
03:13	Cool. So I guess that that $ we're totally - we're making a remote control which is thrilling um uh but the idea is that we can make something based on the whole corporate model I dunno if you guys had time to check the - in real life I dunno if you guys uh # checked the um # uh the corporate website.
03:19	Right.
03:35	Um we've got to make something as fashionable as possible, that's kind of the corporate strategy is we're gonna try to take ordinary stuff that nobody really thinks about and try to make it nice you know like John Lewis nice or you know if you go to Debenham's or something.
03:51	So um basically we are reinventing the wheel but we wanna try to do it in a user friendly um slick sleek kind of way. # Um way we're gonna go about doing that is basically at first we're gonna start on the basics.
04:06	And that's where I'm gonna need you guys the User Interface Designers and the um # um the other designer that I can't remember, the the I_D_ and the U_I_D_ right um $ the Industrial Designer hey right on alright, getting into it um
04:14	$
04:17	$
04:17	$
04:17	$
04:20	Mm.
04:20	There you go.
04:22	to guide me and guide us on this project 'cause you're gonna be - you're g- you guys are the bottom you know you're like no you can't do that you can't have you know X_ and Y_ um at the same time.
04:33	And then um we'll work up from what is necessary to more like what would be good, you know like um # I I think you guys probably got the same emails I did but the idea of um, yes a coffee pot needs to be able to hold coffee but it's also better if it's not like really cheap glass so that it if you touch it you hurt your hand, or something like that.
04:56	Um and so we'll work up from there and um then we'll meet on and talk about it and then finally we'll incorporate as kind of the last stage you know where you guys build or tell me # tell us what's possible and then you tell us what we can um hope for and what way to go take the the the
05:15	take the basics and make it nicer and then ov- obviously uh the U_I_D_ and the I_D_ you know you you can keep on the you know sort* of at the cutting edge of how to get about maximising what is possible
05:26	um to try t- of sync it all up. So that's the detailed design. So it's a three stage kind of thing. Um right so for now just for th- the white board um
05:37	basically uh just to get used to it, I haven't tried it yet either um I'm just gonna start and um mm carry like five remotes around
05:46	um and just write down - I'm just gonna write down one of the names of my um desert discs you know if you - if you were trapped on a desert island and you could only bring five C_D_s along with you name one of them that you could, not all five, if you wanna write all five go for it but name one of them that you could um. Oh, we skipped introductions. Nice.
06:06	$
06:06	I'm a excellent Project Manager. Um. I'm Marty, um I went to uni at uh U_C_ Santa Barbara and I'm here working on a P_H_D_ in psychology. Um yeah. So -
06:08	$
06:09	$
06:19	I'm Sarah, I went to Michigan, and I'm here doing cultural studies and I'm the Marketing Manager or something. Marketing, yeah Expert. Expert. Fine. That's me.
06:26	Expert $ Don't play yourself down.
06:29	$
06:29	Expert $
06:32	I'm Ron. I uh once upon a time studied in Victoria and I am the User Interface Designer.
06:41	I'm Nathan, I'm from California, and I'm here doing a Masters degree in social anthropology.
06:45	Where did you go to uni Nathan? Oh brilliant. Cool. My little brother goes there. Right so desert island discs. Yeah.
06:47	# U_C_L_A_. Yeah.
06:50	Okay.
06:52	So.
06:56	So do we have to wait for you to write it down or are you gonna tell us? I'm waiting to know.
06:58	Well I'll t- i- no no yeah I'm just gonna write a couple of 'em down. See I'm a big music fan I don't know if you guys are, I'm assuming everybody likes music to some lesser or greater extent but
07:03	Uh -
07:07	Fair enough.
07:07	there's some other options, if you're a T_V_ slut like I am like Smallville terrible television show but I happen to love it, it's rubbish but I love it.
07:10	$
07:10	$
07:11	Oh, Smallville. I went to high school with Tom Willing actually.
07:12	$
07:16	#
07:16	T- the the main c- the main character? Wow.
07:18	The guy. Yeah.
07:20	Is he a wanker?
07:21	Yeah. $ Very much so. Hell of a soccer player but a total bastard nonetheless.
07:21	$
07:26	He looks really tall, like he's gotta be like six six. Yeah. Um okay so # I really like Jeff Buckley. You guys heard of Jeff Buckley? Um that's cool 'cause like not very many people have. Um # and um oh well I might as well throw a British person in there um you can't go wrong with Radiohead. It's a r-
07:27	Yeah. He is a big guy. Yeah.
07:35	Mm-hmm.
07:35	Mm-hmm.
07:45	$
07:48	Good call.
07:53	# Okay so it really works just like a pen only makes noises I think. It's kinda weird. Anyway yeah. Yeah, you're like press and it's [sound imitating vibration]. Kinda cool. You'll see. Alright so um whoever wants to get up next, you can write down some telly that you watch or whatever you want.
07:58	Interesting.
08:01	$
08:02	$
08:04	$
08:09	I guess I'll go next then. Okay. Don't* wanna* lose all my mikes, plugged in here. Okay. This is basically just pen practice huh? Okay. Oh you're much taller than me so I'm gonna write down here.
08:10	Go for it.
08:10	Right on.
08:19	W-
08:25	Um.
08:27	Right now I'm listening to a lot of somebody nobody's ever heard of, Chris Bathgate, local Michigan folk singer, really lame and uh
08:33	Mm.
08:35	Nice.
08:35	Wow.
08:37	$
08:39	uh what else did I bring with me?
08:41	Probably classical, to totally geek it out, yeah I think.
08:43	Okay yeah yeah.
08:48	And my family guy D_V_D_s but we don't need to write that one down. So # yeah.
08:49	Well yeah. Oh, family guy. Isn't h- has h- do you watch the new season?
08:52	$
08:54	No. Are you getting it online, or is it on sky? Yeah, that'd be nice.
08:57	# I think I'm gonna start downloading it yeah.
09:01	Alright. Think I'm just gonna put down one uh one C_D_.
09:23	Anybody? No? @ no? Afro beat orchestra, very cool. Yeah. Fift- S- they like fifteen members from Brooklyn. Um and I'm hoping to go to the concert in Belgium, in Brussels in April first. Yeah. It's supposed to be in Brussels anyways. Um thing I love about Edinburgh -
09:24	Mm-mm.
09:24	No.
09:24	'Fraid not.
09:27	Afro beat orchestra? Very cool. Mm.
09:29	Mm.
09:29	Sounds nice.
09:36	Wow.
09:36	Exciting.
09:38	That'd be @.
09:43	Oh. I didn't even read those.
09:45	Oops. I shouldn't admit that. $
09:46	That's what a PowerPoint presentation is for. It's- they're designed specifically to ignore. I - it's - th- brilliant.
09:47	Oh, wow.
09:50	Yeah. It's the five by five, I can't read that much.
09:50	$
09:51	$
09:54	Ah yes yes yes okay I see that. Vomit. Yes. $ Street pizza. It's so brilliant.
09:56	#
09:57	$ Yeah oh it's so horrible.
09:57	$
09:58	$ Love um -
10:02	$ I've seen more urine in this city than ever before, I mean -
10:04	Oh my God. Seriously?
10:05	$ I just came from Glasgow and I'm um happy to say that there's the - there's the same quantity approximately. Um. I w-
10:10	There's more vomit there.
10:13	It's so minging.
10:16	It really is $
10:16	Uh.
10:18	Does uh yeah. Ready? Minging? Nice.
10:21	Alright. Yep.
10:26	Yeah. Slide it in there. Yeah.
10:26	I'm going local. Going local. I have to be here for three years so I might as well get the terminology right.
10:30	Yeah fair enough.
10:32	I've already got more than I can keep track of. And I'm gonna go home next week and everyone's gonna be like oh my God you're turning into one of those people, no.
10:36	Oh, have you been home yet? They'll be like, say something British, and you're like oh shut up family. $
10:37	$
10:40	I know. I know. Oh it should be interesting. Wait until I tell them I'm not coming back.
10:42	Uh-huh.
10:43	Um -
10:45	Let's see.
10:47	$
10:47	$ Right you s- you're gonna stay here?
10:48	They're gonna love that one.
10:51	Probably. Or at least get a work visa for a while and then decide.
10:52	Wow.
10:54	$ Nice.
10:54	'Cause - nice.
10:54	Bad religion?
10:55	Yeah, that's the music I grew up listening to.
10:58	Of course.
10:58	Yeah yeah, yeah.
10:59	%
10:59	Oh, now I can think of so many other ones.
11:00	And so there -
11:01	Well yeah that's why - yeah.
11:03	That's how it works.
11:04	Something I miss about my hometown.
11:08	I miss coffee. $ Burritos.
11:09	Burritos
11:09	Mm. # Oh -
11:10	Nice.
11:11	that cost less than eight Pounds. $
11:13	# Any thing that are like free.
11:13	Oh yeah two two bucks.
11:15	Where are you from in California by the way?
11:15	$
11:17	I grew up in San Diego, but yeah um La Jolla, P_B_ @.
11:18	Did you really? What part?
11:21	Yeah I'm from San Diego as well.
11:23	Nice. %
11:24	Yeah oh man.
11:24	But really uh I last lived in San Francisco, I haven't lived in Cali- well I haven't lived in southern California since I was eighteen.
11:30	Going to s- like North Carol- I'm sorry you you just can't get a better burrito than what's available in the s- in San Diego.
11:36	It's different. 'Cause in San Diego th- the tortillas are cooked on the grill and in northern California they steam them.
11:43	It must make all the difference. $
11:44	Yeah, it really does.
11:45	Well it's it's # i- there's other things too there's - you just can't place it like I - when I went to school in the U_ - in Santa Barbara which is central California
11:48	Ah.
11:53	the Mexican food is okay, it's just not good like and yeah it's like two bucks, like literally two bucks for this massive - I miss yeah good call on that.
11:57	Mm.
12:00	Right.
12:02	Yeah. Where you from in San Diego?
12:04	Mm.
12:04	Um just literally just metropolitan San Diego, I live like five minutes from the zoo. So North Park actually if you want to get real specific.
12:09	Okay.
12:11	Yeah, my grandparents lived on um thirty second.
12:14	Yep.
12:16	Close t- uh do you know where Clare de Lune coffee shop is, and
12:18	Yes. On university, yeah. Yeah it's actually like literally half a mile from my house. Yeah, pretty cool. Small world as we were discussing before.
12:20	Cafe Forte -
12:24	Cool.
12:26	Yeah.
12:28	Especially when we're all from the same general region. Right so okay, success on the whiteboard. You can harness the awesome power a little bit introductions we talked about some of our C_D_s and things we like about the city you know, I think we'll -
12:35	There you go.
12:36	$
12:36	Wow.
12:42	$
12:42	Um right so # moving on to not fun stuff # uh project finance. Um basically what we're trying to do is sell this remote for twenty five Euros. Um. #
12:42	$
12:46	$
12:53	This is what the finance department has told me, the C_F_O_ but I don't know, I'm not sold on this, it's pretty dear, I mean twenty f- that's like you know
13:02	forty bucks for a remote. It would have to pretty much like do my laundry for me. Um so what we can maybe work on that a later but we're gonna make a lot on it, the profit aims to make fifty million Euros on it.
13:05	Mm.
13:12	Eur- internationally. So # um one of the things I I was gonna mention to you um you guys the designers is that um it m- we probably need a rever- it needs to be a universal remote control probably.
13:24	Okay.
13:24	Um so something that could do N_T_S_C_ as well as PAL as well as various other formats like if it's gonna control D_V_D_s but um you know I'll leave that to you guys but that's something that i- i- it is gonna be an international sold thing. #
13:27	Makes sense.
13:31	Uh.
13:38	Um but we wanna try to make it for twelve fifty. So we wanna try to make a hundred percent profit on it if we can.
13:45	# Um s- right so um just to close up, I'm not sure how much time I've used mm next time right Project Manager, sorted. Um. #
13:53	Is uh we'll meet in another half an hour or so um # and I'd like the um Industrial Designer to get ge- think about what needs to be done, like what the basic function of it.
14:03	Um # U_I_D_ well yeah you right g- your assignments are up there and you'll also get s- assignments from - in your email as well more spec- specifics on what do do.
14:14	Um mm basic- and um so I need you to tell us what um # we - what the user's gonna want. So actually in a way you guys c- maybe in our next meeting chat a bit about what the user's gonna want and what the user can have, you know like uh so -
14:19	What they're looking for.
14:28	And negotiate that. Uh.
14:30	yeah well it is # and we'll discuss the trade-offs in between um so yeah specific instructions will be sent in your email. But I think that that is more or less a good place to start for now um
14:43	and as more things come up we'll have meetings and you'll get emails and so forth. Um any questions, before we get started?
14:52	I assume that we're building a stand alone uh remote control, we can't kind of build it into other uh products.
15:01	# You mean to like -
15:02	For instance like a mobile phone or something like that.
15:05	Mm. Sounds interesting.
15:06	Hmm.
15:09	# Yeah.
15:11	I don't think there's any rules about it yet. So -
15:12	Maybe our personal coach will have something to say about that.
15:14	Yeah.
15:14	#
15:15	Or or you know can we produ- can we sell a remote control phone for twenty five pounds or less?
15:21	Mm.
15:21	Well, have a think about it. I mean I'm I'm certainly op- it seems like yeah it it seems like it's certainly do-able isn't it. I mean um or if we can't have a full mobile phone maybe a remote that has some other kind of # useful function. The clapper. No I mean $ no, good idea, good idea. We'll see what - see what -
15:23	Yep. Okay.
15:26	W- yeah.
15:34	Yeah.
15:34	Mm-hmm.
15:37	$
15:37	$
15:40	Maybe a remote with changeable faces, like the faces that you can buy for phones. Yeah.
15:44	$ Nice. Hot. $
15:45	I like the little cover thingies.
15:45	Uh-huh y- I like that #
15:49	Yeah. That's true, I guess we we probably have some time, maybe we should brainstorm a bit like what we wanna do, go back to um -
15:58	I don't really have any. Let me bring up something about
16:02	our basic goals here, what we want to accomplish. Uh project announcement.
16:10	Ts- ts- ts- #
16:14	#
16:17	#
16:22	Yeah. Not so much.
16:24	#
16:25	Hmm.
16:26	All right we'll find them, we're on our own.
16:28	Now are we also discussing kind of our initial ideas at all here?
16:31	Yeah yeah let's do it, let's do.
16:33	S- does anybody have any initial ideas?
16:36	I'm gonna go ahead and take notes on this too 'cause -
16:40	Good idea. Start your minutes. Um -
16:43	Yeah I mean oh yeah right. % So initial ideas. %
16:50	Well it's pretty much given it's gonna be universal right, we decided that already and it may be functioning for other things,
16:52	Yeah.
16:57	as soon as you said that I was thinking like all the other things you could get a remote to do, like your microwave or your front door or like to have everything on one thing, but then, I've never been a fan of those huge remotes that have like a million buttons, you can't tell what they do.
17:01	Yeah.
17:02	%
17:06	S- smaller's better. Simple.
17:07	Mm-hmm.
17:09	Yeah.
17:09	But - I'm thinking - I'm thinking kind of P_D_A_ uh design so touch screen design rather than button so that you can kind of flip around all sorts of different things.
17:10	Specific.
17:17	Okay.
17:18	Oh right. That'd be different.
17:19	Interesting.
17:21	# Yeah that's slick isn't it. I mean like # stylist # yeah like a just a yeah. Right so we got five minutes more to chat about this, perfect. Um so we've got this kind of an idea of a trade-off between um # uh size and functionality. Um and we also -
17:22	#
17:26	$
17:26	True.
17:35	Mm.
17:38	Mm. Right. We want it to be munt- multifunctional but at the same time if you get it to do too much you're not gonna be able to tell them apart, that whole - yeah.
17:44	Yeah. It's gonna be too complicated, too crowded with buttons and things.
17:45	Too confusing.
17:50	I'm also gonna note for future reference this idea of um # so you - like - maybe like an L_ - like a touch screen type of remote?
17:51	Hmm.
17:59	Mm-hmm. Possibly.
18:00	Mm.
18:01	I don't think one exists. Be a good idea.
18:01	An interesting option.
18:02	Needs - it needs one outstanding feature to set it apart from all the other remotes.
18:04	Yeah.
18:05	Definitely.
18:06	Yeah all the other universal remotes. Um # I don't know if there's such a thing out there, I guess we could do some uh do some research on or one of us could do some research on it about whether or not there are um multi-format like um you know PAL, N_T_S_C_, region one -
18:24	Right.
18:25	I'm pretty sure there is. I mean I I have a friend who has a P_D_A_ that he just points at his telev- any television he wants and it'll figure out the $ the specifications of it and will control it um so I th- I assume that that can be done with uh kind of around the world.
18:27	Okay.
18:29	Okay.
18:31	That -
18:34	Yeah.
18:39	# Interesting. Okay.
18:40	Awesome.
18:43	Yeah*.
18:43	Okay. Okay.
18:45	#
18:46	Um all right. So. I li- I'm liking that idea, this idea of a touch screen remote with multi-format features. Um.
18:52	Mm-hmm.
18:52	Right.
18:54	Um.
18:56	# Let's see.
18:58	I think, making it out of a nice material would be very important, because so many of those remotes that you see, these universal remotes look so cheap and low quality.
19:03	Yeah.
19:05	Mm.
19:06	Yeah. Keeping it nice and slick, would be important. And -
19:10	I don't know, like, there's such a problem with losing them, that adding this whole like P_D_A_ pen business is only one more thing to lose, so we're gonna have to be careful with what like -
19:13	$
19:16	Mm.
19:18	Oh.
19:21	Just something like keep in mind when we start actually dealing with this stuff but that would be really cool.
19:26	# Uh let's see. Um.
19:29	I like the idea of the uh multi plate. $ In- in-
19:32	$
19:33	Yeah yeah okay.
19:33	Yeah. Fi- b- like what are they called, those face plate things? Isn't* there a name for them? Are they? I dunno.
19:34	$
19:36	Think they're just called face plates? I don't know.
19:38	@ something, uh we'll have to come up with a name, patent it.
19:38	I like. We should c- we should come up with a fuzzy one as well. $ For those cold winter days. $
19:40	Yeah. Something really cool.
19:43	$
19:43	$
19:43	$ Leopard print or something. $
19:45	Leopard print. $
19:49	Um.
19:56	Hmm.
19:57	I think, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have a like a locator device, maybe a simple button that you have on your television to help you find your remote.
20:04	True.
20:05	Mm. But if we're bundling it - # unless we're selling their telly with the remote.
20:09	Right.
20:10	Mm.
20:11	Um #
20:17	Well if we bundle it as a phone then you can always call it. If you're not doing that then we can have something that just kind of rings from either - well there used to be those whistling devices but that's a little bit annoying.
20:20	True.
20:20	True.
20:28	Right.
20:29	Cou- could we not do something where like just a little lit- like literally just a very small kind of thing that comes with the remote that you could place something else that you press and it makes the remote page. Kinda like how on a lot of um # uh cordless regular phones, you have a page button and it goes [sound imitating pager], could we do something like that?
20:39	Th-
20:40	Right.
20:42	Yeah.
20:43	Yeah.
20:45	Right.
20:46	# I think so.
20:46	That's cool.
20:47	Probably.
20:48	I think we could design into that. $
20:49	Yeah.
20:50	$ Good.
20:53	Um yeah # I think this material quality as well like I guess what we can think about what kind of um uh you know Apple 's been really successful with this surgical white kind of business or this sleek kind of you know -
21:03	Mm.
21:05	Yeah. And that titanium the new silver sleek ones that's last couple of years, very much so.
21:06	Mm.
21:10	Yeah.
21:11	Curves.
21:12	Mm.
21:12	Yeah. We do have the minimum am- amount I mean we were talking finances I dunno, selling a a forty Pound remote would h- or a forty Dollar remote, twenty five Euro remote would be pretty - you know it's pretty expensive so maybe we might wanna trade off some of the features for a lower price.
21:22	Right.
21:28	Without without getting into that whole like you know go down to bargain store remote you know bargain store universal remote that's black and you know m- massive, some kind of I dunno a balance there in somewhere.
21:33	$ Right.
21:34	Yeah.
21:36	Mm.
21:39	Definitely.
21:39	But um have a think about what we can do, have a think about what we want to do, how we're gonna sell it and um -
21:44	Yeah.
21:45	Or if you our users in mind, like these - grandmas are not gonna be into this whole new let's design, no it's - they're used to the buttons so we'll have to be careful of exactly who we're marketing this to, and who we're gonna be able to get it out of. #
21:55	Yeah.
21:55	Mm.
21:59	'S true.
22:03	But -
22:05	We're talking twenty five Pounds or twenty five Euros?
22:07	Euros.
22:07	Twenty five Euros.
22:12	$
22:16	Slight difference I guess.
22:18	$
22:18	Yeah. $ They're all weaker than - they're all stronger than the Dollar.
22:22	Although, computer parts, all - if you're gonna upgrade your computer, buy it in the States. Like um do you guys know Fry's? Huge computer uh electronics store?
22:23	Mm.
22:30	No.
22:30	Mm-mm.
22:32	They serve um - right they sa- tha- s- they will sell things overseas so you can buy stuff in America and have it shipped over for like twenty thirty Pounds about.
22:37	Mm.
22:41	Right so um let's go ahead and wrap that up here for now, I'm gonna put these initial ideas that we've got in the um # project documents, so if you guys wa- need a reminder about what we've talked about um the different you know kind of trade-offs that we've got and the other ideas, you can consult them at your leisure.
22:59	Okay.
23:00	Okay.
23:05	And uh right so thanks for that. Let's just uh head back to work on what we were talking about bef- uh goi- h- h- getting into.
23:12	With half an hour?
23:14	Um. Yes.
23:15	'Kay. Perfect.
23:16	Thanks guys.
23:17	Cool.
23:17	Thank you.
23:18	Alright.

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