I think yeah , I think a scroll wheel would be nice , but it's not necessary . Um Right . So we could either go with a simple or a regular chip , depending and maybe we could table that decision for later . Um . I don't know . I think w well I think when we go on to the une userface , we're gonna have to decide the interface we're gonna have to decide um whether we're gonna have a scroll or not . Okay . Well , let's think about that while we talk about the case . Okay , let's do case . Uh I'm kinda liking the idea of latex , if if spongy is the in thing . Yeah . I'm a little um I'm a little hesitant about it , because I'm worried about protecting the stuff on the inside . Okay . Um Oh could it be hard , and then something around it ? Uh yeah , everything I've Yeah , I would be more okay with like a titanium actual thing and then maybe like a mobile phone kind of thing . N oh wha what I've what I've seen , just not related to this , but of latex cases before , is that there's uh like a hard plastic inside , and it's just covered with the latex . Not too thick a layer of latex , just enough to be grippable , like bike handles or or anything that you've seen like that . The inside is hard . I don't think we need to worry about protecting the circuit board , I think that that's done for us . Mm-hmm . Okay . Mm-hmm . Okay . Ge o Okay . So we uh we do want latex . 'Kay . Yeah . Yeah . Yeah . Okay . Latex . Um and probably in colours , maybe fruity , vegetable colours . Yeah . Fruity colours . Okay um let's go to the ufe user interface then we'll come back to the chip I suppose . Oh and we want a curved case , yeah ? Or a double-curved ? Well , we don't really know what the difference is , right ? I'm thinking curved of some sort . Yeah . Yeah , okay . We don't really know what the difference Yeah . Um okay , interface , the type and the supplements . So push or scroll , right ? Or both ? Um Yep . Um And I think if we wanna keep our costs down , we should just go for pushbuttons , 'cause then we can have a a simple chip and it's simpler , it's it's cheaper to make pushbuttons than it is a scroll button . So in terms of uh in terms of uh economics it's probably better to have pushbuttons . Good point . Mm-hmm . And if we had a sc an on-screen um kind of thing that you could scroll through , like you can use your buttons to scroll through things . I think that yeah . For channel surfing I think a scroll an actual like an iPod's kind of scroll thing would be too fast , I dunno . Yeah , yeah , it's uh it's it's fairly simple . Yeah . I say pushbuttons at least unless we get any information but I have no idea how much more expensive a scroll wheel is than than a pushbutton , but it's gotta be some more expensive , so I think it might be better to put our money into the stuff like the kinetic battery and the cool case Yeah . Mm-hmm . Is that okay with you ? How you feeling ? Yeah . Interesting . because Yeah . And let's like see if we get anything else . I mean I'm not like hard-sold on the scroll wheel , it's more just to give it a different kind of look , but if it's gonna be in a latex type thing and that's gonna look cool , then that's probably gonna have a bigger impact than the scroll wheel . Mm-hmm . It might be cool enough . Yeah . Okay , so we're gonna go with um type pushbuttons , and then supplements , how are we gonna do that ? Yep .