even though this is coming from us as , you know , trend watch , market research , I don't know how much of it we necessarily  wanna take away . Also , considering that the d research b has been carried out by Real Reaction , I'm a little hesitant as to  like , how these questions may have been worded , and if necessarily this whole fashion to technology y edas ease of use is necessarily the right ranking . Personally , like I might reverse it , but if we're working for this company then I guess no matter what , we have to stress fashion the most .  But  it doesn't necessarily need to be a spongy material . 
Mm .
That  there's all kinds of scope for imagination in that one though .
Yeah .  I don't have a lot of notes to share if you want them , that pretty much sums it up . So yeah .
Okay , do we have any  s some questions for this , let's see um .
Yeah , what can I possibly enlighten on ?
Um do you have any ideas how to possibly use these ? Um how to how to use a fruit or vegetable or um or the spongy material at all ? Like could we make a s like could we make a spongy remote ? It would be easier on the hands .
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If it's latex  if it's latexy 
It's kind of  and then it  we would have to find a way to protect like the chip and all that , I dunno . But 
Um , mean 
A kind of thing that 
An uh I  if  th  my understanding of a latex case is that it's in fact hard to protect stuff inside , but that it's covered with the latex , which is spongier and softer on your hands .
Mm-hmm .
It's  there's something to be said , I mean we we got that thing earlier from you about um not wanting it to 
R_ R_ repetitive stress injuries and things and and 
Mm-hmm .
Mm-hmm .
Yeah .
Yeah , something grippable , I mean we don't we don't we don't wanna go spongy , maybe .  Yeah .
Yeah , so something , m m instead of a necess yeah , grip , I'm thinking grip more than like sinking into your hands , you know , i and I think I'm envisioning more like , you know , the material that you have when you sit on like a bicycle , so that it doesn't hurt when you're sitting down for a long time , like I'm imagining that sort of thing , I don't know what th that material's called .
 Yeah . Yeah .
Mm-hmm .
Mm-hmm .
Yeah , I think that given the list of materials I w I was forwarded it's  that seems doable .
 could we go in fruit and vegetable colours ? We could colour-co-ordinate them , li
F for sure , or maybe like
um couple main ones being like , I dunno , lemons or strawberries or something .
The buttons could be fruit-shaped .  Oh well it's quite easy to s shape thing like carrot isn't it ? Or maybe the buttons could be shaped like different fruits .
Could they be smelly ?
 I Is it supposed to be shaped like a vegetable ? Uh like uh I dunno , like uh carrots or something .
 Oh God .
I don't know .
Or carrot shaped , mm .
 Maybe , or 
 Like large button , that's what I was thinking of , yeah .
What about the idea of like a round remote ? Instead of like a vertical up and down one . Like in terms of holding it . Like that's a f shape of a fruit .  Just to tie it in a little .
Kind of like a potato .
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 Yeah .
Might  would you think you you  do you think you'd be able to hold it ? 'Cause I think the reason they're long is  yeah .
Depends . When you when you use a remote , do you press the buttons with your thumb , usually ?
Harder to push .
Yeah .
Or your fingers ?
Um 
I usually hold it in one hand . Maybe 
Or maybe you want something that's shaped like a mobile phone , so you you hold it in one hand , and you press the buttons with your thumb .
I