I don't know that yet .
Um or should we just stick to just stick to having television television related buttons on it ?
Mm .
It's a good question . Um .
 I'll look into that .
Mm-hmm hmm .
If I can .
I think it's just T_V_ , I mean , if it  if we're taking it just [gap] new product a new television remote control that's not like  doesn't say .
Mm yeah .
You know , things might be more advanced than that . 
Mm .
So we should  maybe we should assume that i t it's just a television that we're wanting to control .
Well , I mean I suppose it would be nice to have  playing and record and stop buttons on it for the video recorder as well I I don't know if that works technologically or not .
Yes . I guess we have to define what what we're aiming for . If it's just a television then that  it's a bit simpler , 'cause there's less buttons that would even need to be on it .
Yeah .
It's an idea with the buttons being really [gap] .
Large . If you have older people or people like me that aren't very co-ordinated hand-eye , it's really quite important that you are not pressing a small like teeny mobiles phone size buttons , if we can help it .
Yeah .
Mm .
Yeah .
Okay . 'Kay sounds like we've had a good little discussion for our first ideas . Mind if we move on ? Ps mm okay . Um now our next meeting starts in thirty minutes . I believe we've actually been only working on this this one for about twenty , so we can continue discussing more new ideas if you'd like um ,
Mm-hmm .
'Kay .
Hmm .
but this is just a breakdown of what we'll be doing individually . Um the industrial design , Alima will be doing um the working design . Um the User Interface Designer , that's for [gap] . Technical functions , I guess like keeping in mind the buttons thing , the size of the buttons . Um user requirements um , so you'll be hearing about different trends , uh about different things that people need , um I guess kind of the same uh discussion that we've been having , we'll get from the actual consum s consumers .
Yeah .
Mm-hmm .
Mm 'kay um . And you will get specific instructions sent by your personal coach . I realised in this past one we we didn't have much , we just wanted to get a little brain-storming done . Um so very exited to see all your animals and how  what wonderful um artists we all are  um .
Any questions ?
What we're gonna be discussing at the next meeting ? Do we know that ?
I haven't gotten an agenda yet , um I'll put that together . I'm sure as we'll each get our own instruction and then um because what we gonna do is first our individual actions and then we'll come back together . So I'm sure we'll all have more concrete things to contribute next time
Right .
Yep .
'Kay .
Yep .
I'm sure we'll be busy .
Mm 'kay um I'll type up mi minutes and probably email those out to all of you . Um just including all the things that we talked about . Um .