Yeah um .
I agree with having too many remotes around . My dad has a whole drawer at home of remotes for various things , and I don't know how to work half of them um .
What's important for me , I guess , is that it's easy to use and that there's not too many buttons , they are not too small , you know you know you need to n to know what you're doing .
And one thing I particularly like is if you are not um sort of moving it around to get it to work with the infra-red . Um , I think there is a way around that , but I know in my residence right now the the television you sort of have to walk all around the room to get it to turn on , so i it's just simpler just to just turn around the T_V_ itself , and I think that's  if we're gonna make a remote control , it should actually work for what it's doing .
Yeah .
Yeah .
 Mm-hmm .
So 
What about like batteries and things like that , like are there some remotes that don don't require
like batteries or do all remotes require batteries ?
 Um I would imagine all of them , but we could  but it's possible we could use like a lithium battery um that would last a lot longer than like double A_s . Um like tho those are the batteries that are used in a lot of um M_P_ three players now and that kind of thing . Um .
I know .
Yeah , something that doesn't 
Mm-hmm .
Mm-hmm .
Mm .
Um . Okay , it seems we have a little bit of a conflict over um to uh combining all the remotes cont together versus having f five different remotes . So um like you said you don't like having all the buttons on one on one remote , and yet you don't wanna have five remotes . So how do we work with that ?
 Yeah . Could we get something that
Mm .
just has 
No doesn't have all the buttons that you need to program the video recorder or program s other things that I'm not very coherent about , but that just has your major buttons for  that work for everything , you know volume control , on , off ,
Mm-hmm .
channel changing .
And maybe that spatially divides it , so it's like if you're looki if you're trying to get the T_V_ on that's , you know , like the top thing on the remote , I dunno if d be vertical or horizontal in terms of how we're gonna make it , but if it's like all the T_V_ stuff was here , then all the V_C_R_ stuff was here , all the  whatever else we have programmed into it it's all just in its separate place and not like all the on buttons together , 'cause then you like , I don't even know what I'm turning on .
Yeah .
Mm .
N that way 
Yeah .
Mm .
 Yeah , and if um if you'd save the more complicated functions maybe for separate remotes that you wouldn't need to use every day .
Mm-hmm .
Okay , so maybe have like one remote that has the main functions on , off , channel changing , volume , and another rote remote with all the special things . Because that is one thing that um remotes tend to have buttons that the T_V_s no longer have as well . So like you have to have them somewhere , 'cause you're gonna m need those special functions occasionally . Um but not necessarily on the m the normal remote .
Um .
Yeah .
Mm .
Yeah .
Right .
Can I ask , are we designing a remote control for a television only um , and if if this device is just to be used for the television
 Good question .
would we even technically be possible to include video recorder functions on it ?