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  • Hello and welcome to news from the B.B.C. world service, it's coming to you from London from our studios, and I'm Tim Franks, in a moment, we'll hear from one of the U.S is top point men or North Korea is the President says the talking is not the answer.

  • Also today was the day the Terry Pratchett his request to have his unfinished works destroyed by a steamroller was fulfilled, who'll speak to his friend and one time literary collaborator Neil Gaiman, and how do you solve the problem of whether a street and Salzburg should be named after Maria von Trapp given her controversial views on corporal punishment on that burning question, we will turn the news, our fire extinguisher in about forty minutes.

  • First, though, the question of our times, what to do about North Korea, most recently, after Monday's missile test over Japan.

  • Today, President trump tweeted that talking is not the answer within the U.S. defence Secretary Jim mattis told reporters were never out of diplomatic solution, as it happens, in Geneva.

  • Right now, there's a United nation sponsored conference on disarmament and the U.S disarmament disarmament Ambassador Robert wood made this demand, you're not here today to debate the dangers posed by North Korea's U.N. proscribed nuclear ballistic missile programmes, the time for debate has long passed those dangers are clear, and it is now time for a concerted action U.S. Ambassador Robert Wood calling for concerted action.

  • So what specifically does President Trumper mean when he says, talking is not the answer, I think, the present, it was expressing his disappointment as pleasure with the fact that, over the last two decades, North Korea Paz, he hasn't produced results that we all right.

  • There is a real frustration that he and I are many other sure about.

  • Oh, don't be so far to get North Korea to take appropriate care.

  • So what we have to do this, we have to say to North Korea as in your rationing had enough had enough arms what you doing, you need to start, you need to reverse course rock park of threatening behaviour and come into compliance with your international obligations, the citric when you're entering Council resolution.

  • I don't want to engage in self history, but in that case that suggests that talking is the answer.

  • Well, we saw today, very clearly that the North has no interest in talking there, but if you're if you're saying to them, this is what must happen that, by nature, is you communicating with them, and it suggests that, as the defence Secretary Jin matters, said today, there is room for diplomacy.

  • Well, of course, we're engaged, I wanna ask you is engaged in trying to bring North Korea to see going to see that there is no other option.

  • I've been pursuing a diplomatic effort here, but it's unwilling to, and there's nothing that we Can do unless the gnawed at the side of that is willing to engage.

  • So what we have to do.

  • Yes, we have to continue to put the pressure on Pyongyang and convinced beyond that you have an arch, you can either get yourself back into the good graces.

  • I think you asked me running by picking the steps necessary or it, we can further out, we yourself.

  • That seems to be the path of Pyongyang is chosen, it's unfortunate, but until it's ready to talk about didn't representation, I'm afraid, give their actions, and I shall have to talk about, but again.

  • So, in that case, I'd just to just to be clear, what was the U.S. defence Secretary wrong to say we never out of diplomatic solutions, of course, never out of the correct solution on, and yet the President, saying, talking is not the answer, I don't quite, I don't quite get it interested in at the right solution, and I'm saying it's the North is not interested in that.

  • And so the only option we have right now, although we take no options on the table, is that we need to continue to put pressure economic pressure, I'm going to put political pressure, and we need to continue to show the Norse at that sort of United States has and a commitment to defending its eyes, and we will this, let me talk to you about the economic pressure, because sanctions have been increased or North Korea as a whole and on certain individuals, in particular, and yet, you know as well as everybody else in Washington that China does not want, it's ally, and the country that it borders, North Korea to collapse, because that would have huge repercussions for China, and so the sort of ratcheting up of economic pressure that perhaps you would like to see is never going to happen through the United Nations, or one of the things we have asked trying to do is written as we burst.

  • A number of other countries is to fully for sanction, China has done quite a bit, they were very helpful instrumental in helping us get resolution twenty three certainly one person regularly Council, but there's a lot more like with the China can do, I mean.

  • Ninety percent of North Korea's betrayed with China or China has many clever, but you can bring to bear on our create, and we like to see China needs.

  • And we think there's a lot more that they can, and we will continue to talk to our Chinese friends about what we can do what further weekend you to continued, I thought went North Korea, but so are you saying that China is not enforcing the U.N. sanctions have already been passed no record for us full enforcement, there are slightly more, and the enforcement side, the China can do so.

  • That's not fulfilling all that it could do, it's not just China, there are A lot of other countries, are another completely selling their responsibilities under U.N. resolutions.

  • But what we're trying to do is to strengthen that implementation strengthen that enforcement and also be looking for other ways to put pressure on North Korea.

  • So, what are the other ways, we'll be looking for is, I don't help them and frightened, we're going it obviously competitions with the allies, and other partners should be following yesterday's security Council discussion, and I think certainly there was more, as I said, that we can do, and more of that other governments can you, and we just have to work together as a Community, and with this additional pressure on and recruit sanctions more time to work, and like I said, I think they can be very, very useful and helpful.

  • I don't mean in falls in force.

  • That's the only way we will really be able to. are convinced the North to take a different er, what do you say to those who argue that a lot of President trumps language on North career in terms of fire and fury and military options beamed locked and loaded that it plays into the North Korean put some would say paranoia about what the United States wants to do to it.

  • First and foremost, it's not a threat to North Korean wasn't really not separate uses this propaganda, and they're trying to promote this narrative that somehow, they're developing a nuclear programme is a way to counteract The threats from the United States, and it's all right, Frank, we just birds.

  • I mean the North only understands Todd's language, and that was the point, because it was making that no, we've tried using errors policy into mark language, they have not been listening, we don't believe we've gotten their attention, and we are going to continue to put pressure on them.

  • We think it's the only way we can get the North, as I said, to take an alternative route, and again, if they want to get back into the good graces of the international running, they are going to have to take some steps insurance, you're abducting the position of the current muscle, and that was the U.S. disarmament Ambassador Robert would speaking to me from Geneva tropical storm or Harvey has moved on to Louisiana after battering Texas four days and leaving large parts of the city of Houston underwater or than twenty people are reported to have died, and there is still a vast amount of work to do with many people remaining stranded and the damage estimated to run into the tens of billions of dollars.

  • George, a brown Convention centre is in Houston, is one of those places that is being used as a shelter, but it is already at double capacity, the b. c. sees Natter Tawfiq is every inch of this massive Convention centre has been put to use evacuees continue to stream in by the busload, each with their Own tragic story, the ultimate we surrendered their home to the floodwater without Erica brown is sitting on her card watching her baby, and her three young children as they tried to solve a puzzle, a distraction to keep their minds off the events of the last few days, but the emotional toll Harvey has taken on this young mother was plain to see you today that there are baby.

  • What we angle from the day.

  • How are you feeling, you know, a little bit, O.K.. no here to save you, you know, one day at a time.

  • It was skiing for me.

  • I've got a lovely and my was gonna in there, it might have been like living here.

  • We now know prams were no barrier in with this deal here.

  • Believe me, I'm just a single murder, then take care market, there would be just six of them relief operation.

  • Here are enormous authorities have had to anticipate the various needs of this cross section of Huston's population.

  • Of course, hot meals are being served him, blankets, clothing and toiletries are being distributed, but they also have paramedics and psychiatrists on site to help people cope with the trauma in the med with nine thousand people here in needing assistance, help from volunteers like Ellen Moore has been essential, we were just feeling really grateful we were not affected by the flatter drier streets dry and watching all the footage, and to be, we just want To be able to do something, and contribute something put it up for just being there, watching and not being able to do as the mood changed here from yesterday, today feels a lot calmer yesterday, where's there is like my movement in general, it felt like, I don't care what the volunteer organisation has gotten better as well.

  • So I think people have been put to work in a wet their role.

  • Everyone here is in a different stage of grief.

  • Summer none still too shocked to think beyond their next meal.

  • Others patiently wait in a crawling mind to seek better or a sister, the federal emergency management Agency says it's already received one hundred and ninety five thousand requests for help, Vivien, it's used as one of them her home has extensive water damage.

  • You don't have got insurance.

  • No, no, no, never thought you'd see something like this.

  • Oh no, Oh, yeah.

  • Are you hopeful that you'll get general assistance, somehow, some way, I know, I'm serious right now, I know.

  • I need help or something in their use of the people need help somehow some way guy's going to get the glory, the shelter opened its doors in two thousand five to victims escaping hurricane Katrina, and today, Louisiana's Governor Arthur to repay the favour and take in those left homeless by Harvey and still remembers its own road to recovery.

  • And it will take months of night.

  • Here's.

  • Yep, for the buy you city To reclaim its vibrancy Tawfiq reporting from a George or brown Convention centre in Houston, and just within the last few hours, the Governor of Texas crack habit has said that tropical storm Harvey may have moved on to Louisiana.

  • But the worst is not yet over, for his state, he said, brain will continue to fall and flooding in certain areas may last another week, you're listening to music from the B.B.C. coming up on the programme.

  • If you've ever wondered how people smuggler succeed are moving people across so many borders, we'll hear from this man who was moved from Bangladesh to Libya without hindrance.

  • I should have, however, my bosses are in touch with Duffy shoots, it's basically a syndicate the passports do not have a valid visa summer blank at the airport, they just shed their names against a list.

  • Sometimes they make a phone call, then we are literally that report coming up in about thirty minutes couple of headlines.

  • Russia is told the United States is counter productive and dangerous to push for more sanctions to fourth force North Korea to stop testing missiles and a method for fighting cancer through gene therapy, as, for the first time, been improved by the U.S food and drug administration or out more on that story in just over thirty minutes.

  • This is news from the B.B.C. for centuries.

  • It was quite simple.

  • If you wanted, your surviving papers to be destroyed after your death, you'd Ask in your will, that they be burnt the enormously successful fantasy novelist Terry Pratchett had a typically idiosyncratic demand that, after his death in twenty fifteen the hard drive containing it's thought up to ten incomplete novels, we flattened into uselessness by a six tonne steam roller that happened today, which got us thinking, not about how difficult it is to destroy the hard drive, but how far should dead authors requests be followed if it is that they're possibly valuable certainly intriguing unpublished writing be obliterated Neil Gaiman is a fellow author and was a close friend of Terry Pratchett, it's something that Terry has been saying so much as long as I knew him long, even before the Alzheimer's began Terry was very adamant that when he went, whatever hadn't finished would be steamrollered, I think that the Terry row well over four she wonderful novels, but we shouldn't be greedy the pitch, but he had abandoned the boots that he wasn't satisfied with allstar.

  • Whoa.

  • Oh, beers for you, they would be wonderful, because reading Terry always wonderful, he didn't want people to read them.

  • He wanted them to remember him as something else.

  • I think you're allowed.

  • Certainly, you're allowed.

  • I just wonder, though, whether if you possess that spark of genius that loyalty among your fan base, whether you shouldn't be a little bit more generous.

  • Once you've gone cos, in a sense, if you haven't quite hit the mark with your subsequent work, Or, it's just a flavour of what might be come.

  • Well, you won't read the critical reviews for sure, Dave, you're definitely not reading the critical ideas, Terry, I don't think he fell, he had any obligation two academics, I don't think he felt he had any obligation to critics, I think he felt he had been enormous obligation its readers, but I think that is so the obligation to its readers was to give them finished well crafted book that he was proud of that the fragment and the four star did not count how big a gap does his death, leave all should we just be grateful for what he produced in his lifetime.

  • I think Kerry's death, left a huge gap in many ways, Terry's Alzheimer's created a gap watching, but one of the greatest minds of the greatest writers by generation have to struggle again, Alzheimer's was, and for that, he wrote to the end, it was a stunner, he's blessed.

  • Here's enormously messed there's nobody who could take his place.

  • He's one of those people like Douglas Adams, like, P.G. Woodhouse to a wee generous Astaire irreplaceable.

  • And yet, we had a lot of wonderful book, why Terry, and I don't think we have any right to be greedy, we can always go back and have the books again.

  • And just in terms of the destruction of the hard drive bys steamroller did you sort of approve of the theatricality of it.

  • I love the fact that Terry is somebody who can use would proclaim what, no, I'm Gay what I want them to do is take my hard drive and runner didn't roll over.

  • It was a glorious theatricality.

  • The fact that we are talking about this, in a way, but I don't think we'd be talking a hard disk had been overwritten.

  • What ones and zeros.

  • Is there a tribute to the theatricality and the sense of humour of them Neil Gaiman paying tribute to his friend Terry Pratchett and that steamroller whose name I think bizarrely is Lord Jericho.

  • There are thought to be around two thousand language is still spoken across Africa, but the legacy of colonialism and, more recently, globalisation has increased concerns that the languages that have held communities together.

  • For centuries, could soon disappear.

  • The B.B.C.'s Proms for Lani is spent time with the sand indigenous hunter gatherers who the first inhabitants of southern Africa with eleven official languages in many more an official ones, so the Africa is unique.

  • More than just a means of communicating language forms an integral part of the identity of those living here.

  • The northern Cape as the largest province in South Africa, but it's the least populated for this part of the world are Sami ear it, but many years ago, made the perfect home for the indigenous people of this region of the cloisonne in recent times, quiz son has become a word used to describe two separate groups of People of the coi coi could traditionally worked the Laird as farmers and the Seine who ahead to gatherers, while via traditional practices have all bye dad, art, language, as one of the few things that connects them to their past.

  • We, you don't get a bum few smart, you Becky go see the most well known of the coi languages is Namur, I hope you're coming Susan Susan, it's their of apart, he'd left the number people splintered and their language is recognised as one of Africa's official languages.

  • I'm doing.

  • Oh, nothing my puddle on Tink in that basically all, why it's left Sam turning to modern means to keep it.

  • If you had it for years.

  • In the town of spring back Deena Christian presents an hour long radio show and her mother tongue, it's on air five times a week.

  • And it's the only one of its kind from this small studio inside the local station number them.

  • She's not as talking to the nearby Community, but actually people in other parts of South Africa, like a. time, and even in the Medea home to more Namur speakers at the bottom, because clematis for me, so important, so that we can, Oh, big to our forefathers, but, despite her teaching the day to day, Deena and the rest of her Community now speak Afrikaans, a language with Dutch roots, I like when you come in, and they say, you don't speak number, because I don't, and The their claim which my mother totally in number or us, you must know my limits.

  • About three hours.

  • East of spring back is the town of Epping Tim home to the oldest surviving send language of South Africa, it's survival.

  • Currently wrist and three elderly sisters now.

  • Go on then, punk end move, good, good, good plan will work, it climbable now clown where no whether chair, don't they only spoil, and they had a lot of people speaking the language.

  • Those were good times.

  • We loved our language.

  • At the age of eighty four Katrina Esau and her sisters are the last speakers of no believed to be the most indigenous language of southern Africa, with no other fluent and speakers in the world.

  • Apart from this family, the language has now been recognised by the U.N. as critically endangered also keeping the language alive a sixteen year old Maddie and princely Katrina, as best student when I speak visual inwards.

  • It is really lovely, because my mother's mad, they speak this language, it's for the close and communities that connection is at the heart of why they wanted to protect the language, it's more than just in the star, Geoff, a time gone by.

  • It's to ensure a sense of belonging.

  • A sheared identity for generations to come.

  • That's pom Safa Lani on their fight to preserve some of the many languages of southern Africa, you're listening to the B.B.C. world service if you can, please stay With us, we've got loads more to come in the next thirty minutes of the programme next on news all here.

  • Why thousands of people are fleeing Myanmar.

  • First, our regular look at business news and as tropical storm Harvey continues to move across the southern United States, oil refineries have been temporarily shut down because of floodwaters.

  • And that's hit the global energy market, one of the refineries, that has been affected is owned by the Anglo Dutch giant Royal Dutch shell and a business editor Simon Jack has been talking to shell's Chief Executive Ben van burden about the impacts of Harvey, she was, of course, is a regional headquarters, and also a global headquarters for a number of businesses that, so it's quite a few people in Houston, but of course, we have a large refining petrol chemical operations in the Gulf of Mexico, we have a very large, deep water operation, and we are constructing new assets as well.

  • In the area, as a matter of fact, wherever are assess the impact of this, how material hasn't been on people production.

  • How long do you think it will last.

  • It's early days, Simon, but first of all, I think it's fair enough to say that there's major impact in the eruption on our Emperor, he says, you can imagine many, many of our people, as many as that artists as well have been displaced major damage or issues with the home, they've had to put people Up in temporary accommodation et-cetera.

  • I think the disruption for our staff is very substantial difficulties also for people to go round to get to work.

  • It's a matter of fact, we had to shut down refining a Petro chemicals complex in anticipation of all of this, we have some significant flooding, and we had to evacuate.

  • One of deep water facilities in the golf, because it was in the path of the hurricane.

  • But also, it doesn't look as if there was major damage.

  • And even read her again made landfall there, we are constructing one of our next big deep water project, it looks as if the damaged also limited, so Edward disruption for weeks still to come, but unfortunately, it's not the first time that we had to deal with major disruption of the golf.

  • This gives a sense of where this ranks in terms of disruption, and I'm not, it is right at the top of things, but it's the worst of the second, it's kind of hard to say a lot of it still has to play a, but of course, if you have to shut down a very large refining petrol chemicals complex, we had to shut down the entire pipeline system around it, and a whole network of facilities in the ship channel has been disrupted the ship channel itself is congested with debris.

  • If you see how much disruption.

  • There is two people and output of capacity to restore, I think this Is a major thing where had ranks kind of hard to say, but it is, it is a major event for the industry.

  • And, of course, for the people of Houston.

  • And what about the impact on production is that a material impact on your production capacity.

  • I would say that is actually quite limited in the bigger scheme of things.

  • So, of course, we have one of our facilities, we had to evacuate.

  • Let's see when it comes back, that can be a matter of a few days or weeks or a bit longer, depending on whether it's damaged, but in the bigger scheme of things.

  • That is not that material.

  • So I don't expect to see some disruption on world markets.

  • As a result of this shell's Chief Executive been talking to the b. b. c.

  • Simon, you're listening to the B.B.C. world service live from London, this is news sat with me.

  • Tim Franks and news of a rapid and mass exodus in South East Asia.

  • Now, as aid workers report that more than eighteen thousand of Muslims fleeting violent state have entered Bangladesh in under a week, the crisis erupted after injury insurgents attacked thirty police stations.

  • Last Friday, triggering a military response.

  • Aid workers, giving emergency shelter and food say that about a dozen at the new arrivals have recent bullet wounds.

  • Here are some accounts from rra hinge of Muslims who arrived in Bangladesh me up magical Beulah up his enemies.

  • You some women Stayed in the village, and they can't flee because they don't have any money, they were risking their lives by stay only one or two of the men from each House have to stay behind, and we're facing difficulties finding food and shelter, because we don't have any relatives, yeah, well, I'll be development years old byram village authorities told us to run that men had to stay behind to protect the village, I'm worried for my husband out with, and he needed to stay in the village to protect if we go a guard Tower lined the army, Gilles that occurs here will negotiate with them, so that we can go back there.

  • I don't want to go there.

  • Now, some tales from the border of Bangladesh and Myanmar, and Sam Johan is a reporter with the a. f. p. news Agency is also been well, I've been passing last five days in the band suddenly another border, and I have seen all these people, and they're the harrying journeyed they have made from their villages.

  • Worse, the frontier to the international order.

  • They tried their best to cross the fences and comments, I'd bung the best to save their lives, their least belonging and, mostly women and children, and some old man very feel young men, aged between you nature late twenties, what do you put it down to what I have seen.

  • There are these people coming are in hundreds and thousands in number, which the I.O.M. As well to say today that already eighteen thousand more than eighteen thousand people actually have entered Bunga there from the other side of the border, and these people I spoke to many a very musty, do we're men, and the old men running a men, and they were saying, there are young men, be they actually thought they were the action stay back at home.

  • Do you fight for their rights.

  • When you say fight for their rights.

  • Do you get a sense that there is a of fool's skirl insurgency going on.

  • Well, I mean that is very, very tough to confirm actually prom beside a border that I have doctor, few of these men as well, who actually claimed themselves as part of the range of movement against the government, and they put this deryck blaming for torching their houses looking their villages.

  • Certainly, torturing people killing as well.

  • So, yeah.

  • They seem very confident that they could have done this or bee stings, and what sort of stories, did you hear about what was going on in Ragtime, it is more or less the exact same stories everybody carry as the same story off our son torching villages, looting, killing their people random fires mortar shell fires and everything, so it's pretty much the same story.

  • For each of these families who arrived in Bangladesh.

  • Most of the rest saying, our men stayed behind for fighting.

  • So this is, this sounds like, I mean from what They're saying to us that it is, I mean, they have actually now he won't be there, trying to turn back and fight for their rights.

  • That's exactly what they're saying, again and again, repeatedly, they just came here, just because they wanted to save their lives and saved the life of the children that was Sam Johan speaking about his visit to the border between Bangladesh and Burma.

  • Well, we have been trying for the last few days to get a an interview with somebody from the government, or Myanmar, also their representatives in London, Washington, D.C and the United Nations, the reason I'm telling you all that is because, unsurprisingly, no one has been available.

  • So what is the Burmese government saying about the violence and the exodus mince ways in the b. b. c.'S Burmese service, the government for us in is quarter needed a deck by the error can Granger celebration, there come and dump them as terrorists.

  • Group, but the group itself says it is its primary aim is to protect their Muslim minority from state repression.

  • They have been attacking the government outposts and burning villages, and because the Muslim or the range of villagers fridge about these decks, they fled to the border how easy.

  • Are you finally get to talk to members of the government.

  • Actually, the government, as you should be hauled these press conferences, the have very limited time for the media BUPA and theatres give above thirty minutes.

  • There's Not much information from the government.

  • Is that the case.

  • Generally always that, particularly the case with the violence in Ragtime stayed with Rangers.

  • They are handling it as a very sensitive issue, and there under this kind of consumption, they want to feed the news media, they went to assist something to the Internet and immediately went to see her something for that.

  • I don't look a media saw the trends.

  • I don't differentiate between the foreign agencies and local, that's why it's difficult to reach them.

  • How is the unrest viewed inside me how much support is there for the for the government's approached us.

  • In fact, they're a different opinion, because most of the people think that the government is handing in a very softly, softly men and the asked, especially from their account by them.

  • And darians the as for direct military rule in the Parliament, but the government listening to a different voices from different communities as well.

  • U.N. and the international Community, so they didn't give a very heavy handed approach.

  • Now that the government said these decks are terrorists or Dex the people supporting the government approach.

  • Even then, the nests Liz said, it is not another as yet that there should be direct military rule.

  • And they've been demands on the streets that coffee, and then Commission's finding should not be implemented.

  • That sort of movements that are going on the streets, there has been very strong criticism as you were mentioning From outside the country from, among other things, the U.N. high Commission for human rights on the Burmese government's approach to the state to the rer hinges the violence, there how sensitive.

  • Do you think the Burmese government is to that criticism was specially obviously, given the fact that sense hoochy is herself a Nobel peace prize laureate infect the comment is trying to improve its image into Natalie, and there's your end findings, and they want to ascent fact finding mission and the government things that this is always one sided listening to leg ruined you b., but that not digging into consideration.

  • Above, there are kind people were also suffering equally so that they'd think that Internet on approach is not balance, and they don't accept some planks, but do you think they're upset about this criticism read Kevin hurt about a recent reports from a U.N., but I think they are not happy about what the U.N. is seeing to meant sway from the B.B.C.'s Burmese service.

  • I'm now going to read out a statistic about whose accuracy and provenance.

  • I've absolutely no idea anyway, every year, apparently three hundred thousand tourists come to the Austrian town of Salzburg.

  • Because of the film, the sound of music, the movie, one of the world's best loved apparently is based on the real life story of Maria, the singing nanny who captured the hearts of the von Trapp family and escaped the Nazis and Salzburg city councillor recently suggested Naming a street after Maria von Trapp, but her application was turned down by the city of Salzburg, on the grounds that Maria von Trapp used corporal punishment on her children Bethany Bell reports from Salzburg for real wandering along a little footpath and bicycle lane that meanders through the green suburbs of Salzburg and on my right, I can see the foothills of the Alps that surround the city.

  • This path, doesn't have a name and not long ago, a local politician called Marlene Vandal came up with the idea of naming it after a woman who's done more to put this city on the map than anyone except Mozart Maria von Trapp, I wanted to name the street after her my beer from Club, because she's famous person Salzburg her family's famous insults, but very important for salt, but for the country and the city.

  • It's a city of Salzburg turned her application down the authorities said that Maria von Trapp wasn't the idealised figure presented in the movie, they point to the fact that in her autobiography, Maria von Trapp describes using harsh corporal punishment to discipline her children behaviour that wouldn't be acceptable today, your Highness cry for nadir is the spokesman for the city of Salzburg.

  • There was too much violence against children, and we can't accept this today.

  • So we decided not to, it's quite likely that a lot of people were given corporal punishment.

  • Before the nineteen seventies or eighties, it was considered The normal thing to do.

  • Look what we, I think, for them.

  • When we very much through, it's not possible for if this honour to her every bit like funk Malina Vandal thinks it's wrong to judge Maria von Trapp by today's standards, yes, they were horrible things in her, but you have to make a difference.

  • Or think about what was to come and help in the twentieth nineteenth eighteenth century, they were famous people, maybe treat their children in that kind of sway like Maria from clubbed us, maybe the Emperor, maybe we don't have know what has happened Rahman, a Marie so is Salzburg insulting the memory of Maria von Trapp will simply reflecting the historical reality.

  • It's a sensitive matter city makes a lot of money from sound of music, tourism and wondering around here, you really get the sensation of just how many people I know and love the Association, with the sound of music.

  • Sorry, love, I just knew I was seeing.

  • I think it would be good to name a street after him much tourism in for this, because of her, or because of the movie about her.

  • So I think she should get this, who do you think Celso kid name a street, we had some very difficult people who've had streets named after them.

  • So I that report from Salzburg from best me Bell, she was doing the reporting, not the singing, just to bring you up to date on That question that we posed earlier about whether the fantasy author Terry Pratchett had the right to say that his unfinished work should be steamrollered into obliteration after his death, while there has been a pretty concerted response on social media by his fans, all of whom say acts jollied lutely a reminder of our top story, this hour of the trump administration has given mixed signals on tackling the North Korean missile crisis, the U.S. defence Secretary Jim mattis insisted that there was still room for diplomacy, but President trump had earlier tweeted the talking was not the answer.

  • Robert wood, the U.S. disarmament Ambassador told news out that the President was simply expressing his displeasure, but a diplomatic approach had not yet produce results.

  • There is a real frustration that he and I have many other sure about a Dolly, you're getting Austria to take an appropriate.

  • So what we have to do this, we have to sing to North Korea as your lyric and ask what you're doing.

  • I need to stop first course and the provocative of threatening behaviour and come into compliance with your international obligations, this is news that live from the b. b. c. we heard a little earlier on the programme about those crossing the border from Myanmar into Bangladesh.

  • There's a huge flow of people out of the country, Bangladeshis are now one of the largest migrant groups, making the dangerous crossing at the Mediterranean from Libya to Europe, more than Seven thousand of them arrived in Italy by sea, between January and may of this year, nearly one in eight of the total number those rescued in the Mediterranean, have told aid workers that they paid more than ten thousand dollars each to be taken from Dakar to Dubai or Turkey and onwards to Libya, where they typically end up in the hands of people smugglers to b. b. c. central image travelled to the Bangladeshi capital Dakar to invest, I will say it was in his forties lives in a tiny one room tenement in a, Tarka shanty a Bollywood film us playing on the neighbour's television set by the woman washes clothes outside last year, he left his home for Libya lured by the promise of a good job that I did at the airport at about one hundred one hundred fifty people.

  • Everyone was carrying the smaller back, I was told all of us were going to Sudan from their daily diggers to Linda, we're going to, we don't them, but once he got to Libya, he was sold to traffickers were demanded a ransom of five thousand doggone Dalai Lama roderigo furtive growth, they would torture me, I would not be given any food, it would make me stand for twenty four hours, they said, be in, then you can, I'd like a, well, I don't know if she said, I can be so much, what do I do that, eventually, his wife was forced To borrow money to secure his really, he's back home.

  • Now, but deepened his trip to Libya was facilitated by a local agent part of a vast trafficking network who exploit the desperation of bone of she migrants after many attempts, and finally able to track down an agent who agrees to speak to over a Cup of tea.

  • He tells me his job is to first identify someone who wants to go up.

  • Typically, it's someone he knows fake documents and tickets are organised by the traffickers, and then he escorts the migrants, all the way to Libya, typically their journey begins either wretched Chittagong a Tarka airport, from where they are flown to the Middle East, and then onwards to Sudan and Libya at the other end, they're handed over to a fresh set of traffickers.

  • Many of all, a bung a dish was a scene as another migrant was managed to escape and come home, he tells me, it is the Bangladeshi traffickers to migrants fear the most, it was one of the earlier, the police used to leave us, because the Bangladeshi Trafford go Sensei, we have run off, they are country meant.

  • Do you want him, it's like selling the police have been five hundred Libyan dinar, that's half a man tell you, if I do, then the Bangladeshis extort money from us.

  • That's why you pedal allowed their, they don't end up in the hands of the fiddle among the vision migration expert and Darker University Professor a Groucho the, re, explains why so many bung dishes migrate, despite the huge risks, one of the main reasons is the number of jobs that have been created at all.

  • This much more than the people who are entering the job market.

  • So migration is a very important livelihood strategy for the poor people.

  • So the immobiliser sources, it'd certainly not necessarily an individual choice.

  • It's a household choice, so the family sits with other decides who should go abroad, how the money should be read, but so long as opportunities back home, continued to be limited, the dishes were looked ahead out, even if it means taking their life in their hands.

  • Central image under reporting from Dakar in Bangladesh, the U.S food and drug administration has approved the first treatment for childhood leukaemia using genetically engineered blood cells, the procedure milk modifies, and then uses the patient's immune system to seek out and destroy cancerous cells.

  • Catherine bollard is a paediatrician and immunologist at the children's national medical sent from Washington, D.C and she was on the advisory panel for the..

  • I think this is a tremendous breakthrough, because at this time, we're in a t. cell therapy or an immune based therapy, using a ourselves is being used to cure cancer when, especially for the paediatric population.

  • So it's a form of gene therapy, it's a gene and cell therapy that he sells themselves a genetically modified as, so that they can Be in recognise and kill the cancer cells in these children with acute look for blessed a croaky Mia are the potential downsides to this.

  • Are there risks involved with this treatment.

  • Clearly, these have very sick kids, so I guess the threshold of risk probably change is good, but are their potential downsides.

  • So they're certainly what their toxicity sentence from cased substantial toxicity is associated with the stirrup y. birch their rigour of the trial was Satch there, and there were no deaths related to these toxicity. these, about defy speaks affect their these sorts of therapies should be reserved for very sick patients end for patients who can be treated and author Sarah seized their heads.

  • The ability to cope with such side effects, and should also be limited because it is from what I understand, also a very expensive treatment, its career, I think their pricing is out of the four hundred thousand U.S. dollars, but I think, you know, this being the first to sell t. cell based therapy approved the and opens the door for so many other t. cell based therapies for other cancers in even either to Caesar, such as H.I.V. or onion disease.

  • So it's really paved the way for the future of how we treat patients cry Billy, right.

  • I mean, that is a very impressive claim.

  • I mean, how much of a leap.

  • Is it going to be too, to try and replicate this in the treatment of Other diseases.

  • Well, you know, so I think you know of my progress from here at children's national is already in face one clinical trials for a using t. cell therapies for other diseases, such as H.I.V.. another paediatric cancers.

  • And there are multiple centres throughout the U.S and also in Europe and the U.K doing similar try, or so I think, you know, this approval of the snow, Baddest, pro product is really going to open the door to allow only Sebastian, this should really be, I was abroad, and the applicable shields.

  • These sorts of therapies, Catherine bollard paediatrician immunologist, and she was on the advisory panel for the F.D.A., which recommended that this new leukaemia treatment, get the go ahead.

  • And so it happened today, that's it.

  • From this edition of news from meat in Frank's in the rest of the team here in London.

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